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Do Car Safety Problems Come From Outer Space?

Hugh Pickens writes "As electronic devices are made to perform more and more functions on smaller circuit chips, the systems become more sensitive and vulnerable to corruption from single event upsets. This is especially true of Toyota, which has led the auto industry in its widespread inclusion of electronic controls in the manufacture of their various car models. 'These circuit families store not just data, but their basic function electrically,' says Lloyd W. Massengill, director of engineering at the Vanderbilt Institute for Space and Defense Electronics at Vanderbilt University. 'In the unfortunate event of a particle flipping just the right bit, a circuit configured to carry out a benign action may be reprogrammed to carry out some unintended action.' Denise Chow writes in Live Science that some scientists are pointing to cosmic ray radiation as a plausible mechanism behind the sudden, unexplained acceleration reported to have occurred with the late model Toyotas." "As the design of automobile systems continues to evolve from mechanical to electronic controls, relying more and more on various circuitry and chips, these electronic components may be vulnerable to being confounded by high-energy radiation writes Chow. Federal regulators were prompted to look into the possible role that cosmic rays played in Toyota's product recall fiasco after an anonymous tipster suggested the design of Toyota's microprocessors, software and memory chips could make them more vulnerable (PDF) to interference from radiation compared with other automakers. 'What's not known is what direction Toyota and other automakers are taking in terms of finding and correcting these issues,' says senior researcher Ewart Blackmore."

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  1. Why they tell you to turn off your phone... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Informative

    Interference from radiation doesn't just come from outer space, it comes from cell phones, TV/radio stations, microwaves.... you see where this is going. I once worked in an office where there was a cell phone relay antenna too close to a PC, and we were constantly reinstalling the OS until I told them to move things around in the area.

    Thing is, when Windows gets a corrupted OS... it BSODs and we move on. Single-bit errors shouldn't send the car out of control... there should be some checksum that shouldn't add up. When a fault is detected, it should go to a backup program about safely shutting down the car.

    1. Re:Why they tell you to turn off your phone... by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-ionizing_radiation

      Granted, an unshielded circuit can be vulnerable to any EM field, but gamma rays affect electronics in a completely different way than microwaves do.

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    2. Re:Why they tell you to turn off your phone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      If red cars are an indication of the problem, it's more widespread than engineers used to believe. On a more serious note: Fault tolerant design is the answer. Have three systems calculate the result (ideally using three different algorithms) and let them vote on the correct result. Don't assume that a set state persists, recalculate frequently and set the state even if it should be already set. Feed the control and the sensor data into a watchdog circuit (in triplicate...) to detect mismatches. Etc.

    3. Re:Why they tell you to turn off your phone... by SeekerDarksteel · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is one of the most common methods of error tolerance, actually, N-modular redundancy (typically either dual-modular or triple-modular). It's used in airliners and space shuttles, as well as a number of other critical applications. IBM actually sells servers (the system z series) which automatically runs two copies of everything and compares instruction results, so that failing processors can be detected and avoided.

      The proposal by the GP poster is actually much more difficult that it would seem at first glance. About the only place "checksum" style error detection is used is in memories/registers. The reason is that if I do a floating point addition, for example, the only way I know whether the addition gave me the right answer is to do the addition again and check.

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    4. Re:Why they tell you to turn off your phone... by rcamans · · Score: 5, Informative

      I worked on ECMs at GM (Delco Electronics) for 10 years at the start of their use (1980 to 1990). So if a cosmic ray came along and flipped a bit, it would have to be a specific bit. If it was a msb type bit in the accelerator position, then yes, acceleration. except that the bit would unflip right away because of pedal position update. Or if it was some engine feedback msb, again, yes, temporary acceleration, but again, only for a short time. Updates happen constantly.
      About EMI/EMC/RFI - the modules have been shielded and protected since day one against that. The engine is a very high disturbance environment in may ways. Sparks, for instance. The ECMs have been in almost all American cars since before 1980, because of the 1975 car air pollution reduction act Congress passed. The only way cars could meet the pollution restrictions was through ECMs. So If we have ECMs since nearly forever, and only just now one manufacturer has a bit flip problem? I don't think so. And these modules do not use the latest super-small feature processor technology. They use older temperature-resistant tech, Much larger features, far more radiation-resistant.
      No, the most likely problem is either a software routine with a bug, no error handler, or similar issue, or a mechanical,problem (less likely).

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    5. Re:Why they tell you to turn off your phone... by Kral_Blbec · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm a bit skeptical of your claims about lead decay in electronics. While some isotopes of lead are radioactive, those are products of uranium decay, which as any good geek knows, goes through alpha and beta decay until it ends as a stable particle of lead-206. In that pathway there is lead-214 and lead-210 that have half-lives of half an hour and 22 years respectively. However, unless they are putting uranium in your electronics, the only lead present is going to be from mined ores that have had plenty of time to decompose into a stable form.

      The best chart of lead isotopes I found is here http://education.jlab.org/itselemental/iso082.html. I'm not sure why, but it lists a half life for lead-204 even though I thought it was supposed to be stable. Most half lives are a few minutes or hours.

  2. Re:No. by SeekerDarksteel · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's a reason that our entire modern world doesn't come crashing to a halt around us every 30 seconds. If every CPU was vulnerable to bit flips from random radiation, every part of your house would be on fire and arcing electricity. Times Square would look like the bridge of the 60s enterprise under attack.

    Actually, every CPU _IS_ vulnerable to bit-flips from radiation. That part of it is not speculation. It does occur in commodity processors, and with probabilities large enough that we have ECC ram, and ECC and/or parity in caches. Some servers actually come with built in hardware fault tolerance methods, because when you run hundreds of servers non-stop for years, the probability that a particle strike screws up a register on chip is non-negligible. Now, still, the probability isn't _huge_. Definitely not high enough to be causing these specific problems, especially when the failure is always in the same manner. _That_ part of it is pretty much bullshit.

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  3. Frontline Auto Engineer's Perspective by jim_k_3038 · · Score: 5, Informative

    While working for Motorola, I worked on electronic throttle control (ETC). We spent a ton of time working to make the system "fail safe". I think we all had in the back of our minds that it was only a mater of time before we would have to testify as to our engineering decisions.

    My little part of ETC involved adding a sub processor which watch-dogged the main micro. The little micro asked a series of questions of the main micro. Both processors would need to agree on all the inputs and output of the system. The little micro would also ask question regarding real time OS (RTOS) of the main micro. The main micro would need to have tasks executing in the right order to satisfy the small micro. Lastly, the small micro would ask the main micro to perform math operations to verify accuracy. Oh, and the main micro was continuously checksumming it's memory too.

    Both micros had a direct hardware disable path to the H-bridge which was delivering power to the throttle plate. The throttle plate was spring loaded, so, with power cut, the throttle plate would snap to an idle position.

    Next came the electro / magnetic compatibility testing (EMC). We spent months inside huge chambers testing both radiation and susceptibility. One of the tests for susceptibility involved using a zap gun to spark a 20kV spark on each pin of our ECU. Not satisfied with that, our customer opened one of our modules and used a sparking spark plug to slowly zap our board to failure. Bottom line, that throttle plate better never stick one way, or the other.

    In the end, it always amazed me that the whole thing would work at all. Seemed to me that the system was always seconds away from going into some kind of fail safe mode.

    No, a stray bit flip is not going to facilitate a run away car. Least not on my system!