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Good SAT Scores Lead To Higher Egg Donor Prices

alphadogg writes "Analysis from Georgia Institute of Technology of college newspaper egg donor ads showed that higher payments offered to egg donors correlated with higher SAT scores. 'Holding all else equal, an increase of 100 SAT points in the score of a typical incoming student increased the compensation offered to oocyte donors at that college or university by $2,350,' writes researcher Aaron D. Levine in a paper published in the March-April issue of the Hastings Center Report. Concerned about eggs being treated as commodities, and worried that big financial rewards could entice women to ignore the risks of the rigorous procedures required for harvesting, the American Society for Reproductive Medicine discourages compensation based on donors' personal characteristics. The society also discourages any payments over $10,000."

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  1. Let the free market decide by cryfreedomlove · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think society has any legitimate interest at stake here that is not covered by allowing the free market to set prices for human eggs. It should be interesting to see what egg buyers will place real $ value on.

  2. I have VERY high SAT scores by natehoy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I called them and asked about what their going rate was for a high-SAT scorer like me, and they offered me $12,000!

    Things went badly when I asked if the eggs had to be organic, and what size they should be, and was styrofoam OK or did they prefer paper cartons. Oh, and when they found out I was a guy.

    Sexist bastards.

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    1. Re:I have VERY high SAT scores by codeonezero · · Score: 4, Funny

      I called them ... Things went badly when ...they found out I was a guy.

      I'm amused that they didn't pick up on that until you actually had to tell them you were a guy. ;-)

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  3. Triumph Of The Nerds by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This should lead to geeks lessening jocks' reproductive advantages.

  4. Cha-Ching! by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 3, Funny

    Each woman has two ovaries with 300,000 eggs each. At $35,000 per egg, that's $21-billion per woman. You'd think more women would cash in on this.

    1. Re:Cha-Ching! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't think you donate just one. I think itis $35K per procedure.

      Anyone familiar with what is involved with "donating" these eggs?

      It's not like it is for men - wham, bam, checks clears in 6 months man. The donor woman gets drugged with the unfun kinds of drugs - hormones and what not to make her the same batshit crazy menstral cycle as the rich woman. Then, after months of that, they reach up (so to speak) and scoop out as many eggs as they can. They try to implant the rich woman. Lather, rinse, repeat, as needed. You don't get paid until (and if) the rich woman gets knocked up properly. It's pretty messed up. But if the choice is that or a year behind a McD's burger grill...

    2. Re:Cha-Ching! by bmajik · · Score: 5, Informative

      Specifically, the woman will typically be placed on an oral contraceptive that suppresses ovulation to "stabilize" her natural menstrual cycle. Then she will come off it at a known point so that her ovulation can be managed with about a 12 hour accuracy.

      During this time, she will typically take drug that stimulates ovarian activity -- Follistim is common -- so that she produces multiple mature egg follicles during a single cycle. She'll typically have a few vaginal ultrasounds during the cycle to estabish follicle count and development. Finally, at the pointed time she'll take a dose of medicine that causes the eggs to be finished/matured/released. The following day she goes in for a procedure where a large syringe punctures the vaginal wall and retreives the eggs.

      If you remember nothing else from this writeup, these are the key points:
      - woman takes a fuckton of ovary-exploding drugs
      - doctor puts enomrous syringe THROUGH THE SIDE OF THE VAGINA

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    3. Re:Cha-Ching! by feepness · · Score: 5, Funny

      - doctor puts enomrous syringe THROUGH THE SIDE OF THE VAGINA

      Forgive my apparent lack of knowledge, but FOR GOD SAKES ISN'T THERE ANOTHER WAY IN?!!

  5. Why discourage this? by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think that the worries expressed betray a double standard. How does it make sense to worry about high-SAT women "ignoring the health dangers" of forced ovulation, when you don't worry about low-SAT women ignoring the same dangers and getting a tenth of the money for the ordeal? To be clear: these people don't want women to stop donating eggs. They don't want high-SAT women donating eggs for a lot of money. But the risk in each donation is the same!

    In any case, an egg donor will suddenly get a quick and large pile of money. I think the real question should be: How will the money be spent? If the donor gets $50,000 and uses it to help pay for three semesters of her Princeton tuition, I don't see a problem. If another donor, who is not in college, spends $5,000 on shoes and handbags, I don't see a great deal of good having been done.

    I know someone who has donated an egg, and she was actually pretty sick for a part of the procedure. Smart women in Princeton, who have other options, will not want to undergo something like this unless you offer them more money. That just seems like a fact. But if the people who want the eggs have the money, and their satisfaction is increased by the knowledge that their donor is academically talented, and the donor herself will use the money to develop her talents further, it's a clear case of "everyone wins."

    So why does the American Society for Reproductive Medicine need to shit on this optimal outcome? I think they should be encouraging it!

  6. Duh by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Back in college our daily newspaper had standing offers in the $15-50k range for eggs of a woman above a certain height, below a certain weight, and above a certain SAT score.

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  7. DON'T DO IT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    DO NOT donate sperm, it can bite you in the ass later. There have been court cases where the mother who was artificially inseminated with donated sperm was later able to track down the man who donated the sperm, and successfully sue him for child support.

    This is just another example of where the family court system is biased against men. Women automatically get custody of children, or more custody than the man, unless they are on crack or something and this can be proven. Alimony is a total insult; it's the notion that a woman has a legal right to get used to a particular lifestyle that her husband provided, and therefore her former husband has to pay her money after the divorce to make sure she doesn't have to get used to what her income alone can provide. If that was really fair, the woman would have to continue having sex with the man after the divorce, since that was the lifestyle he was used to when married, but fairness is not the goal here. Imagine a couple suing the female egg donor for child support after using her egg to produce a baby. It would be laughed out of court. But women have successfully sued men for child support for donating sperm.

    Warning to men - it might look like easy money for something you do anyway (masturbating) but seriously, it's a bad idea.

    1. Re:DON'T DO IT by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You just need a signed document saying so.

      Most of those cases have been closed now, in favour of the men not paying child support anymore.

    2. Re:DON'T DO IT by Pamplona+Slowpoke · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Alimony is a total insult; it's the notion that a woman has a legal right to get used to a particular lifestyle that her husband provided, and therefore her former husband has to pay her money after the divorce to make sure she doesn't have to get used to what her income alone can provide.

      Put the shoe on the other foot. I married my ex right out of college. She went to medical school and I started work doing contract programming starting in 1995. I did really well through Y2K and on into 2003. I quit working when our son was born and she only had 6 months left of a general surgery residency at the Mayo Clinic. Afterwords we moved to her home town in rural Montana. 4 years later she and one of the orthopedic surgeons in town become an item.

      During the 9 years she went to medical school and residency I earned $855,000 more than her. The legal term for that is a reduced marital estate due to her deferring income for a greater income in the future.

      There is no demand for programmers here in Montana and I am making about 28% what I was able to previously. Do I deserve alimony so I can defer my income for 4 to 6 years to gain a skill that does have demand in here where I live so I can live in the same town as my son? Yes I do.

  8. JJ's Fertility and SAT Cram Course by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 3, Funny

    It seems ironic that women of higher learning who might, as some suggest, fund their education from their ovaries, would need to go to a fertility clinic after their successful education and careers that kept them way from the maternity ward until their 30s or 40s.

  9. Re:Numbers don't lie but they are vague. by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe you missed the part about holding everything else equal.

    "all else equal, an increase of 100 SAT points in the score of a typical incoming student increased the compensation offered to oocyte donors at that college or university by $2,350"

    So I would presume they would compare across the same schools and adjust accordingly.

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  10. What's this worth? by Trip6 · · Score: 4, Funny

    SATs over 750 each
    Certified Mensa IQ
    Concert pianist
    Well endowed
    High metablosim - hint, hint
    Blonde, blue eyes

    Starting bid: $youcantaffordit

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  11. Re:Genetics and prejudice by bcmm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Intelligence" is a poorly-defined concept and it is very hard to devise a test which gives fair results regardless of the culture of the subject.

    In case you haven't noticed, culture is a pretty significant confounding variable for "race" (which is also a poorly-defined concept).

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