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Will Smith In For Independence Day 2 & 3

bowman9991 writes "If one isn't enough, there are reports that two sequels to Roland Emmerich's 1996 alien invasion blockbuster Independence Day are in the works. Will Smith is back too. Apparently he delayed a sequel earlier by asking for too much money." Other rumors include using an iPad to destroy the alien space ships this time, and letting Obama fly a biplane. Data will have a 5-minute monologue about what it means to be human.

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  1. Will Smith asking for too much money? by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Any amount sufficient to put him through an acting class would be a worthwhile investment. For that matter, throw in a few directing classes for Roland Emmerich while you're splurging. But (and this is a REALLY crazy idea), I think they might be even better served this time by spending at least 1/100th of the money on the actual screenplay that they're spending on catering.

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    1. Re:Will Smith asking for too much money? by somersault · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, for the last few years Will Smith has been one of my favourite actors. Have you seen Seven Pounds, The Pursuit of Happyness or Ali for example? All serious movies in which he does a good job, and of course he still does a good job in lighter movies too. The fact that I can take him seriously in the serious movies after watching so much Fresh Prince of Bel-Air as a kid says to me that he's a good actor..

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    2. Re:Will Smith asking for too much money? by mdarksbane · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Will Smith seems like one of those actors who is really dependent on good direction. By that I mean someone who doesn't just let him run out of control with a scene. Personally I see that in a lot of comedians - they've got talent, but you need someone who can direct that talent instead of just letting them go on way past the point where the joke was funny or the character was believable.

    3. Re:Will Smith asking for too much money? by Moryath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He had a funny role playing himself on TV for a while, but really, these days - have you seen any recent interviews? Many of his statements haven't been good. He aligns himself with the cult of $cientology, never claiming to "join" but always talking them up.

      And then there's the weirdness of his buying his talentless son a star role in a movie, and getting the desperate-for-money Jackie Chan to star in what is blasphemously being called now "the Karate Kid" (or in China, "the Kung-Fu Kid")... ack.

      Far as I can tell, Will Smith is played out and would be better just retiring.

      Now as for Independence Day... they REALLY think they can get two more movies out of that premise? Eek.

    4. Re:Will Smith asking for too much money? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I used to hate Will Smith. Particularly around the time of Independence Day. Before Hitch, most of his stuff was crap, but Enemy of the State was quite (surprisingly) good, and the first acting I saw from the man that didn't agitate me.

      Now, he's one of my favorites - not of all time, but certainly one of my favorite current actors. His movies have been predictably good for the past 5 or so years, and not only because they're "good movies":

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  2. Crap by COMON$ · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It will be the matrix all over again....

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    1. Re:Crap by celibate+for+life · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The 1st Matrix movie was good. I don't see the analogy.

    2. Re:Crap by mike2R · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know, I rather like Independence Day. I'm not trying to claim it was a work of art or anything, but it was a fun alien invasion movie.

      Admittedly I'm a sucker for fight-or-humanity-will-perish speeches...

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  3. Why? by ground.zero.612 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, why do movies generate so much nerd rage? It's not like it was called "Independence Day: the real life prophecy of the truths to come."

    It was a movie, made to entertain the masses. Was it any worse than Men in Black? I happened to have enjoyed both films actually. Queue the continued nerd rage in 3...2...1...

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    1. Re:Why? by Grizzley9 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, because all of nerdom hates The Black Knight.

  4. goddamnit by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Aren't there other interesting stories that could be told through the art of movies that are not stupid?

    Can't they finally shoot the Ring World or something like that with the same Will Smith as the main character?

    Jesus holly fucker.

  5. Once you seen one Roland Emmerich by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    epic film, you've seen them all.

    Same emotional highs and lows, same treatment of relationships, same everything.

    You'd think a creative person would want to move on and do something different.

  6. Foundation by Kranerian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article says,

    "If true, this is bad news for the already delayed Asimov Foundation trilogy: it’s likely Roland Emmerich will direct the Independance Day film after his latest film Anonymous about the life of William Shakespeare, delaying the Foundation start date even further."

    Bad news? No. They seem to be under the impression that we want him to direct the Foundation Trilogy. Anything bringing the possibility of him not doing it is good news indeed.

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  7. Naming Technicality by NonUniqueNickname · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a trilogy it would no longer be Independence Day. They would have to rename it to Independence Long Weekend.

  8. Yeah, that'll be the reason... by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Fox can now offer more as they are swimming in the massive financial returns reaped from James Cameron's Avatar.

    Yeah, because the multi-billion dollar News Corporation couldn't quite manage that before.

    Seriously, the amount they'll pay for a movie is based on how much they expect it to make. Not how much they have in their coffers.

  9. HOLY HELL by decipher_saint · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just make new goddamn movies, how hard is that???

    You want my movie-going dollar? Stop giving me an experience I could rent more than 10 years ago.

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  10. Re:Why do people complain... by Stregano · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Jeff Goldblum using a pre-osx mac to create a computer virus and be able to figure out how to hack into an alien mothership and plant the virus.

    Randy Quaid saving the Earth from aliens is much more believable than that.

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  11. Stop the xkcd karma whoring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This post is not funny. The comic is funny. You should have to do more than link to xkcd to get modded up.

  12. Bill Pullman by The+Dancing+Panda · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For everyone bashing Will Smith. He's the most popular actor around right now. There are several movie critics who stopped publishing reviews for his movies because what they say doesn't matter. Everyone's going to go see it anyway, because it's a Will Smith movie.

    I still consider Bill Pullman to be the greatest president of our generation.

    Good morning. In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others from around the world. And you will be launching the largest aerial battle in this history of mankind.

    Mankind -- that word should have new meaning for all of us today.

    We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore.

    We will be united in our common interests.

    Perhaps its fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution -- but from annihilation.

    We're fighting for our right to live, to exist.

    And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice:

    "We will not go quietly into the night!

    We will not vanish without a fight!

    We're going to live on!

    We're going to survive!"

    Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!

  13. Re:Oh dear lord. by Zenaku · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay. I know I'm about to get into one of those hypothetical nerd arguments that nobody can win, but what the hell. I'm waiting for an utterly inadequate laptop to deploy a shamefully bloated enterprise app to a local instance of Websphere, so I've got 10 minutes to kill.

    If we're assuming aliens that can live on Earth the assumption must be that Earth-like planets are common, why would the aliens risk starting interstellar war for resources that are apparently quite common

    There is no reason to assume that interstellar travel is fast or inexpensive. Maybe it took the aliens a thousand years and 10 generations to get here, and they haven't got the resources to get to the next closest earth-like planet.

    Second, aliens capable of interstellar travel would be capable of wiping us out with little to no effort.

    What are you basing this on? Oh yes of course, the idea that "Technology" constitutes a single field, and that advancement in one area automatically means advancement in others. Where did everyone get this idea? If we invent a cure for cancer tomorrow, will we suddenly know how to build a matter teleporter? It is perfectly conceivable that a species could develop interstellar travel without inventing a way to instantly and selectively kill off a particular species on a planet. Saying it is laughable is like being surprised that we can put a man on the moon, but still can't cure the common cold. The two things have nothing to do with one another.

    Have to agree with you about Jeff Goldblum -- in a single afternoon -- deciphering the alien equivalent of TCP/IP and hacking up a computer virus capable of running on alien hardware. Beyond ridiculous.

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  14. Re:Oh dear lord. by timholman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have to agree with you about Jeff Goldblum -- in a single afternoon -- deciphering the alien equivalent of TCP/IP and hacking up a computer virus capable of running on alien hardware. Beyond ridiculous.

    That was absolutely one of the most cringeworthy aspects of the movie, and they could have fixed it with a single scene.

    Data: "But it's strange - despite their formidable technology, their computer and communications networks are extremely straightforward - no encryption at all. We've spent years reverse-engineering the command codes for their systems. We've had a lot of success - for all the good it has done us."

    Goldblum: "What - an advanced race like this, and the idea of passwords and encryption didn't occur to them?"

    Pullman: "No - they're telepaths. They can't lie or hide anything from each other - and we're the only other advanced civilization they're ever encountered. No other race they've destroyed had computers."

    Goldblum: "Give me everything you have on their computer systems and command codes. I have an idea ..."

    Sure, it would have still been a stretch, but a lot easier to swallow.

  15. Re:Oh dear lord. by timholman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That doesn't work because the aliens were able to decipher and hack into the satellites. Therefore, the aliens are probably highly advanced in cryptography.

    Right - and that's the plot point I would have removed. After all, the entire idea of them needing our satellites to coordinate their attack was blindingly stupid. What, these advanced aliens can't synchronize their own clocks prior to an attack?

    The "satellite hacking" bit was written into the movie to give Goldblum something to figure out and try to warn everyone about. It never made sense in the context of the aliens' capabilities. It was just the best idea the writers could come up with.