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The End of the Road For Texting Truckers

crimeandpunishment writes "The US Transportation Department is calling for a permanent ban on texting while driving, for interstate truck and bus drivers. An interim ban has been in place since January. The government says it is doing everything it can to make roads safer by reducing the threat of distracted drivers. The Transportation Department says nearly 6,000 people were killed and half a million injured in crashes involving distracted drivers in 2008."

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  1. Re:This requires federal government intervention? by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Reckless driving is already an offense in every state I know of. Why not just enforce that law?

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  2. Re:This requires federal government intervention? by sunderland56 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most trucks drive on state and federal highways, so state and federal legislation makes sense.

    Of course, truckers can still look up contacts, dial their phones, look up addresses and map them, download apps, and play games on their smartphones while driving. They just can't text.

  3. Why only truckers? by Trip6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All the studies show it isn't safe - it has been banned in several states. Why not everybody?

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  4. Re:This requires federal government intervention? by Cryacin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As any smoker/ex smoker would know, it takes more attention not to smoke.

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  5. Re:This requires federal government intervention? by evil_aar0n · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, but at the same time, law-makers can say, "I took a stand against this, and voted for your safety!!!1one!" The alternative is to stand around, impotently, and say, "We _have_ laws on the books; it's tha po-lice that ain't doin' their jobs." Law-makers have to consider "Directive #1": get re-elected.

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  6. Re:(Correlation == Causation) = Over-regulation by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    can arguably be done perfectly safely in the right circumstances.

    I wouldn't call luck being "perfectly safe".

    Seriously, do you understand what you have to do to text while driving? You have to take your eyes off the road completely and focus most of your attention on entering your text message.

    Most of your job while driving is not keeping the vehicle running down the street straight. A six year old can do that (there are a number of COPS episodes that prove that). Most of your job as a driver is making sure you are not going to run into someone else, or that someone else is not going to run into you. It doesn't take a PHD in statistics to recognize that any activity that requires your entire attention, and requires you to remove your eyes from the road, is going to prevent you from doing your job as a driver. It isn't rocket science.

    I do believe it's fair to say that drunk driving is a causal factor in accidents - the difference being that alcohol is a cause of bad judgment while things like driving too fast for the conditions are an effect of bad judgment.

    There are a number of studies that show your judgment while just talking on a cell phone is nearly as impaired as being drunk. Can you honestly say texting is going to be better than that?

    Common sense man, you don't need a scientist to tell you everything. Correlation does not prove causation, sure, but this isn't bizzaro world where correlation proves there is no causation. Correlation is strong evidence suggesting a link, and a little common sense points out the obvious factors. Distractions cause accidents, in fact very few things cause accidents except distractions and chemical or physical impairments (i.e. drugs, alcohol, or sleep deprivation). To take something as distracting as texting and say you can't assume it causes accidents is down right idiotic.

    To sum it all up, you sir, are a dumbass.

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  7. Re:This requires federal government intervention? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course, truckers can still look up contacts, dial their phones...

    He would never find time in my truck. You need both hands, feet and plenty of concentration to double-declutch through the ratios on an 18-speed Eaton Fuller gearbox while keeping the rig moving in the right direction.

  8. Re:(Correlation == Causation) = Over-regulation by spmkk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Most of your job while driving is not keeping the vehicle running down the street straight. A six year old can do that"

    Since we are talking about "interstate truck and bus drivers", actually it IS. And since most truckers and bus drivers are presumably more developed than a six-year-old, maybe it's not necessary to force them into highway hypnosis by making them do nothing else at all while keeping the vehicle running down the street straight.


    "Correlation is strong evidence suggesting a link, and a little common sense points out the obvious factors."

    Obvious != true. It is obvious that ice cream causes skin cancer, since places where people eat more ice cream have a substantially higher incidence of skin cancer. More to the point, it is obvious that talking on the phone while driving causes more accidents. Except that it doesn't.

    No, of course we don't need a scientist to tell us everything. But we DO need to avoid the cargo-cult approach to passing laws. For most of my life I've lived in a country where we don't impose restrictions without measurable benefit merely for the sake of imposing restrictions. I would kind of like that to continue.


    "To sum it all up, you sir, are a dumbass."

    That was well thought-out, eloquent and appropriate. It is the kind of comment that adds value to the conversation, substantiates your point of view, and encourages others to re-evaluate theirs.

  9. Re:This requires federal government intervention? by Alioth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let's assume all of the Toyota problems are due to the computer. Now how many crashes have occurred due to the problems? A small handful? Now compare that number by how many crashes have been caused by human error in the same makes and models of Toyota cars.