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Gnome 2.30 Released
Hypoon writes "The GNOME project is proud to release this new version of the GNOME desktop environment and developer platform. Among the hundreds of bug fixes and user-requested improvements, GNOME 2.30 has several highly visible changes: new features for advanced file management, better remote desktop experience, easier notes synchronization and a generally smoother user experience. Learn more about GNOME 2.30 through the detailed release notes and the press release."
April Fools!
Really not sure if 2.30 is a April Fools day prank or not now...
I mean, what the hell, Slashdot! Serious news? On this, the holiest day of the Geek Calendar?
Seeing "support for Facebook chat, and new productivity features" in the same sentence was a pretty good start, but things just trailed off from there. I demand a punchline from this press release, or at least some enlightened puns about how to reduce the window manager's footprint!
Hah! Bring it on. You won't get me this year!
Just say "GNO".
I love Gnome, but is looks so outdated these days...
Evince on Microsoft Windows(R) now includes support for printing, PostScript and comics.
Now I know it's April 1st.
I don't put a lot of faith in DE developers that can't fix a simple "Show/Hide hidden and backup files" problem in their file-browser. It's only been how many years?
Seriously, I set it to show hidden/backup files and tar up a directory (after checking the files) and SENT MY BOSS BACKUP AND HIDDEN FILES THAT I DID NOT WANT TO. That could have been the end of my little world!
Gnome - what a cluster-f*ck, heheheh!
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/evince/2.30/evince-2.30.0.msi
" If you can't fix it - give it more features! "
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It's interesting to note that, in Nautilus, Browser-mode is now the default over Spatial-mode. Years ago, in the 2.0 days with whatever-that-company-was-that-made-Nautilus and the wonderful new HIG and whatnot, the switch to Spatial was heralded as a major improvement and modernization. Now, like many of those huge and bitterly disputed changes, the grand step forward is being reversed with only a slight mention.
And yet, despite the reversal of so many of those improvements, I do think it's making Gnome better; it's just taking a very long time for the idealists of days past to realize that their ideals didn't really work in the real world.
How can we make Gnome better? I know! Let's take away that useful button that lets you type in paths. And then yell at you for being stupid when you don't know that button had a Hotkey (Ctrl+L) that still works, even with the button missing.
Stay classy, Gnome devs.
Us RHEL users will see this in 1-2 years. Whee.
I'm GNOME regular since 2003 and all I can say is these 2.x series has been great ride. Yes, there where stuff which were broken, there where people who said that features are taken away, but still, I'm very productive in this desktop and trust me, I have worked with and supported every mainstream and not-so-mainstream desktop under the sun - it is one of the best. Apple gets it first, but GNOME guys cleverfully tries to integrate that stuff what matters. So kudos for all GNOME developers for these series and while I'm still a little bit cautinous about shell, I think it will turn out good in the end (it was quite usable when I tried it during Jaunty).
Beyond usual "small stuff" which is nice to have (like fully working Evince on Windows, giving you good alternative for Adobe Reader or FoxIt), I really like Vinagre improvements. In quite short time, it has become de facto VNC viewer for GNOME platform, and finally there are color bit settings for those with dialups or other slow links.
user@ubuntubox:~$ stfu This server is going down for shutdown NOW!
"advanced file management, better remote desktop experience, easier notes synchronization and a generally smoother user experience"
I requested those *specifically*!
1) A sync framework built-in, for syncing different mobile devices. Everyone has one or more mobile devices now, nothing works really well. My Windows Mobile phone, PDA, my iTouch, etc, are not working well. SynCE and Multi-sync are not up to task (yet). This might be a Linux issue, but it would great too if Gnome could provide a nice syncing framework, if no one at a lower level would want to pick it up. Anyway, I really don't care where that issue should be lied in, I just wish my mobile devices work nicely with my linux laptop. It's annoying having to manage my contact, calendar, task list etc in Windows inside a VirtualBox, in order to be able to sync.
2) Evince should take a look at PDF Xchange PDF viewer. I want to be able to add notes, highlight, etc, in my PDF ebooks. Installing PDF Xchange Viewer on Wine is an ugly solution (font and UI are way ugly), and it's too slow.
3) F-Spot is slow...
4) Anjuta, can we do emacs key binding yet? Haven't used it for a while though.
5) Network Connections should apply network settings after changes, not having to ask users to restart networking service or reboot. Ok, probably just an Ubuntu issue.
6) Gnome should wake up probably after a suspend. I have no such issue with other desktop or WM, just Gnome. I tolerated it so far, coz I don't do suspend that much, and prefer to hibernate. But it's still annoying when you need to do it.
7) iBus seems to have a bad habit of hanging from time to time, especially when you are typing too fast, and you have to switch between input methods very often. And start up is slow too.
I'll try the new version soon, hope to see some of my problems solved. Regardless, thanks a lot for the hard work, really appreciat it.
April Fool!
gnome seems to straddle this useless position of being less polished and feature packed then KDE, but slower and more comlpex then XFCE4.x I love XFCE btw it's a great wimdow manager.
If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
Has the Nautilus "Places" ordering bug been fixed yet? I'm not a developer, but seriously, how hard can it be to allow the user to drag and drop items in the "Places" widget? The nearly identical bookmarks can be drag-and-dropped. I wouldn't even care, if the default ordering made ANY sense at all, but its not alphabetical, not chronological, its COMPLETELY random as far as I can tell. Why can't somebody fix this?
Imma try it.
If the new release of Gnome is as good as the web site, I'm not interested.
By the way did they fix that fucking file open/save dialog box yet?
...but I still do not use browser mode, either. Instead, I am now just using the terminal 99% of the time. The spacial implementation in Gnome failed for me because it was way too clunky. For something that is supposed reflect placement of real objects in real life, you really need to be able to interact with them with both hands in order for it to be enjoyable. In other words, there needs to be many more keyboard/mouse/mouse-keyboard commands for mass window management. Sometimes, it just doesn't work piddling with every single window individually every single time.
Because of this, spacial in Gnome always felt lame in a lot of ways like how spacial in Windows 95 was lame. Spacial just doesn't work if you try to use it with an arm tied behind your back. Now granted, since moving to Gnome from Mac OS, I have fallen in love with modifier-drag combination for moving windows around. Shift drag is also pretty fancy. We just need more of those kinds of things.
Once you start despising the jerks, you become one.
If it does, then I shall be switching to an alternative. If not, then there's hope yet.
Anyone got sawmill/sawfish running on a recent library set?
If so, got a link?
It had Gnome compatibility, but didn't clutter up the desktop with real estate-stealing nonsense or kick off a bunch of annoying memory- and disk-hogging "features", such as indexing, that I don't want, as do both Gnome and KDE.
To justify the presence of the Mono libraries. Why else include this dreadfully slow application when there are much faster, more fully featured, rival applications ready to take its place.
Miguel must have all his fingers and each of his twelve toes crossed right now, because Mono is the only justification for his salary and share options at Novell. Even the men in suits would get a bit suspicious if none of the software the Miguelistas were producing was used by anyone. At least forcing users to use it creates the illusion that it is needed. Without the inclusion of Mono, Miguel and his band of happy followers would be out on their sorry asses (well, maybe not asses, donkeys perhaps, and even then probably just the one between the lot of them).
But really... why is F-Spot still there?
These kinds of funny posts make reading /. absolutely worth it. Thanks!
I am not really here right now.
If you want to spoil the fun, all the commands are spelled out clearly in the source code (the link to which I'm sure you can find).
Try "hello joshua" :)
but the original explorer.exe shell it mimics has fewer bells and whistles, so that's a more user-friendly and better designed UI experience.
GNOME 3.0 might be better, though. I join all GNOME-istas in hoping so! (And hoping for an eventual fix for the Save File dialog -- it's a tough problem.)
"I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it." : Dogbert
Some command spoilers. I didn't look in the source, this was just some messing around:
apt-get
This APT has Super Cow Powers.
apt-get moo
(picture of cow)
...."Have you mooed today?"...
emacs
You should really use Vim.
vi
You should really use Emacs.
hello
Why hello there!
exit
Bye(CLI terminates)
I was disappointed at the lack of a python shell and "import antigravity". I just really felt like flying today.
I always wondered why it's called gnome. Why couldn't they give some more sensible name, like Midget Widget Toolkit.
(By the way "gnóm" means clumsy in Hungarian. But I guess it doesn't sound better in English either.)
guest@xkcd:/$ whoami
You are Richard Stallman.
I miss one thing in Vinagre that is there in the regular terminal, that is copy/paste from local or even virtual machine to the shell on the remote machine, yes I mainly work with ssh instead of vnc.
I do like the bookmarks for remote sessions, saves a lot of time and typing the ssh command.
Vinagre is garbage. It is incompatible with uvnc and tightvnc, and it only lets you set a password of at most 8 characters. Nice security there!