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Science Attempts To Explain Heaven

Hugh Pickens writes "Lisa Miller writes in Newsweek about the thesis that heaven is not a real place, or even a process or a supernatural event, but rather something that happens in your brain as you die. The thesis is based, in part, on a growing body of research around near-death experience. According to a 2000 article by Bruce Greyson in The Lancet, between 9 and 18 percent of people who have been demonstrably near death report having had an NDE. Surveys of NDE accounts show great similarities in the details, describing: a tunnel, a light, a gate or a door, a sense of being out of the body, meeting people they know or have heard about, finding themselves in the presence of God, and then returning, changed. Scientists have theorized that NDEs occur as a kind of physiological self-defense mechanism when, in order to guard against damage during trauma, the brain releases protective chemicals that also happen to trigger intense hallucinations. This theory has gained traction after scientists realized that virtually all the features of an NDE can be reproduced with a stiff dose of ketamine, a short-acting, hallucinogenic, dissociative anesthetic. 'I came out into a golden Light. I rose into the Light and found myself having an unspoken interchange with the Light, which I believed to be God,' wrote one user of his experience under ketamine. 'Dante said it better,' writes Miller, 'but the vision is astonishingly the same.'"

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  1. Re:Hmm by OrwellianLurker · · Score: 0, Troll

    Hush now. THIS IS SCIENCE.

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  2. Re:Hmm by MichaelSmith · · Score: 0, Troll

    I had a weird experience when my arm was set but that was just the Ketamine.

  3. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Science, man's continuous attempts to justify theory's... God exists. Even Stephen Hawkins accepts there must be some kind of power setting the parameters of everything. Quantum theory, as big and as clever as it sounds, does not explain 'how' quantum mechanics came to exist! You can keep coming up with theories, but at the end of the day, we weren't around when the universe was created, we don't understand it, cannot understand it (love the idea that the universe is expanding, expanding to 'where'???) Our stupid little brains cannot even cure aids. Scientists are like the emperor, and the public are the people. So when the emperor says he's got some new clothes (theories), the people daren't say how dumb they are for fear of being treated like an IDIOT for thinking there IS a God!

    Well, there is a God, and He did create 'existance', and it's in your interest to accept Him and be thankful for your life!

    Happy Easter!

  4. Re:Damn You, Science! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Hate to disappoint, but if God does not exist since we could pinpoint the brain area responsible for it, then rationality does not exist either, nor logic cause we can easily shut down those areas as well. But probably that type of reasoning only applies to religion and the like.

    The beauty of science is to hide facts.

  5. Re:Science = religion by tjstork · · Score: -1, Troll

    . Now that's morals for you.

    The difference is in volunteering. I wonder when the left will finally admit that the renaissance wasn't some "enlightening" where the people became free of the evil church, but rather, a bunch of minor warlords and bankers that decided to take power away from the church, keep it for themselves, and then some.

    The Pope's palace is a pile of rocks. The head of the liberal movement in the United States has an airborne palace that flies around at 600+ mph and multiple bases throughout the world. The pope has a few guys dressed up in 16th century uniforms. The head of the liberals has two million men and women under arms, countless scores of agents, police, and interrogation powers. Unlike the Pope, he and his political party send their dark agents throughout the empire to confiscate the savings of any that would oppose their government.

    Indeed, if the amount of compulsion and confiscation is a measure of tyranny, than even the 10% church tithe is a lot less onerous than the litany of agencies and forms the government makes one attend.

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  6. Re:Science = religion by sycodon · · Score: 0, Troll

    Lacking belief in an afterlife makes this world far more precious; a thing that must be protected because there is, as yet, nowhere else for us to go.

    Because all of the governments that had this as an official policy (Communism, Socialism, etc.) turned out to be oh, so just and quite the paradise.

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  7. Re:you don't go to heaven at the moment you die by Darby · · Score: -1, Troll

    Of course, with over 1,900 different Christian sects, it's hard for me to even believe something like a standard set of 'Christian values' even exists. Heck .. you guys can't even agree on whether or not to eat meat on Friday, or whether abortion is murder.

    Heck, not one early Christian even believed in an actual Jesus. That is known to have been made up long after the initial fairy tale was invented and it was just tacked on later.
    So you can tell for certain that somebody who claims to be a Christian is nothing but a lying fool. Ask them if they think Jesus ever was a person. If they do, they aren't a Christian of any sort. They're nothing but a deluded lying sack of shit. Because Jesus the person has nothing at all to do with Christianity and the belief in such an obviously made up bit of bullshit is pure heresy.

    Of course, try and find anybody calling themselves a Christian who isn't too damn dumb and deluded to know that basic fact about their own freaking religion. That's why you can never find an ethical person describing themselves as a Christian. Being an unethical lying fool is the overwhelming requirement. Everything they claim to believe in are really obvious lies, and the height of morality in their sickening, subhuman animalistic minds is the most evil fictional character ever invented.

    They are incapable, by definition, of being moral, ethical creatures.

  8. Re:you don't go to heaven at the moment you die by Darby · · Score: 0, Troll

    I can't imagine anybody who actually understands Christian principles saying that abortion is OK.

    Then the whole problem is that you don't know a fucking thing about Christian principles.

    Your god is extremely in favor of slicing pregnant women's bellies open and ripping the fetuses out. That is a wonderful thing according the the stated position of your god. He's gung ho in favor of murder, torture, rape, abortion, genocide and he's a rabidly racist piece of shit.

    If you're too fucking dumb to have even read the bible and yet you think you can comment on Christian Principles, then...well... you're a typical Christian. A liar and a fool.

  9. Re:you don't go to heaven at the moment you die by Darby · · Score: 0, Troll

    I don't know of any Christian who thinks we need to follow all the Old Testament laws.

    All of the ones who read the Bible and believe that idiotic nonsense know that they have to follow every letter of every word of every one of the old testament laws because Jesus (supposedly, obviously he's a fairy tale character and never actually said anything) said exactly that. Not one letter of one word of one law, you fucking patheticly stupid lying sack of shit.

    You are not a Christian, you don't know shit about Christianity and are a liar and fool to claim that you do.

  10. Re:Always disturbs me to explain religion by Darby · · Score: -1, Troll

    It is amusing to see a program on trying to explain the story around Moses, when nothing in the historical record mentions this at all.

    Plus, the Hebrew tribe (and obviously the evil demon they invented and called god) didn't even exist until about 1000 years *after* the pyramids were built. That's how damn stupid all Christians, Jews and Muslims are. We know their god was invented and we know people were here at advanced levels for thousands of years before their god was invented, yet they insist he must have gone back in time or something. That is how deeply sick and deluded every believer in that god has to be by definition even to get in the door. When they start that sick and fucked in the head and only go down from there, it's no surprise that they're the least moral or ethical group on the planet.

  11. Re:finally... by Darby · · Score: -1, Troll

    And that practice is not defended by the majority of Christians. Not even the majority of Catholics.

    That practice is defended and paid for by 100% of Catholics by definition you sick deluded fuck.
    If they don't believe that a nazi who worked to help people rape children is the ultimate moral autrhority on Earth, then they would not be Catholics. If they are Catholic, then they are happy to actively aid in raping children. If not they would leave. It's not like the Catholic church has ever been on the moral or ethical side of of things after all.
    Torture, murder and oppression is all the sick fucks do. Now before some dumb as douchebag tries to put feeding the poor as a plus, keep in mind they are the sick disgusting fucking animals keeping condoms away therefore intentionally and with malice completely thought out in advance creating more poor for them to throw scraps at while treating their own wealth and power as their only true goal.

    Just like that sick fucking cunt Mother Theresa. Kept everyone around living in squalor while hoarding millions.