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Mass. Gambling Bill Would Criminalize Online Poker

timothy writes "Awesome: 'A gambling bill introduced by Massachusetts House Speaker Robert DeLeo criminalizes Internet gambling and online poker. The bill calls for two casinos.' Not that they're against gambling, you see... just against being deprived of a monopoly in such a perfect fleecing opportunity."

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  1. Internet gambling is illegal in Vegas! by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is a fairly common ban... even in Las Vegas you have to submit yourself to the whims of the Nevada Gaming Commission, and you can't get an Internet casino approved by them. Most states have lotto laws that makes the state-run game the only legal gambling in their jurisdiction.

    It's already proven that a lot of MA residents are traveling to the two CT casinos. I'd rather stay in MA to play poker if only there was a legal game in town.

  2. Re:Enforcement? by mjwalshe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    and how do you diferenciate between diferent games of skill? What is the diference between say a poker game with a $20 per player entry fee and say a Warhammer (minature wargames) competition with the same entry fee with the entry fee being used in the same way to provide prizes.

  3. Re:Technically unconstitutional. by blair1q · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They don't ban the commerce, they ban the communication.

    The feds have already banned interestate and international gambling online.

    It was banned over the telephone and telegraph decades ago; in fact, having read that law and knowing how the Internet works, I didn't see a need for any new laws to ban it for internet traffic, but legislators like to show up on C-SPAN.

    Massachusetts legislators are no different, so tacking a redundant ban onto a bill legalizing in-state gambling is either a no-op, or adds some twist that the feds didn't consider. Like banning in-state internet gambling as well.

  4. Re:Gambling online is completely fucking stupid by protest_boy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would go so far as to say it is almost a 100% certainty that you are being cheated, systematically, in a way you can never detect. It is not necessary for them to kill you in every hand. Only to ensure that their shills win at a slightly elevated rate.

    You don't have a very good grasp as to how online poker works. There is no reason whatsoever for an online casino to cheat their customers. In fact, it works against their interest. Money is taken out of each and every pot played. It is NOT in the casino's interest to make their customers go broke faster than normal. If you go broke fast, you may leave forever. If you go broke slowly you will likely reload your account with new funds. Regardless, a hired "shill" will not be able to pull a profit undetected faster than the rake which collects money every single hand on every single table.

    You sound like the many many people who try online poker, lose badly, and chose to blame the system rather than a lack of skill.

  5. Re:Enforcement? by Peach+Rings · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That wouldn't be a new problem, nor is it a difficult one. State laws in the United States regulate gambling by stuff like the number of tables in play and the number of machines in play, as well as whether the company makes a business out of operating a gambling establishment. Even non-casinos are (and should be) subject to regulation like the rule saying that no purchase can be necessary to enter a contest or else it's legally a lottery.

    Also, why would you say that a Warhammer tournament with entrance fees and a big prize should be less regulated than a poker tournament?

  6. Re:Victimless crimes.. by Score+Whore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So how much government help does someone have to accept before you reduce their rights?

    How much of other people's money should you get to blow before they get to have a say in how you live your life? How much of their rights do other people have to give up so you can avoid having to take any responsibility for your choices?

    Should old people who paid into and now collect Social Security be treated this way?

    Social Security isn't welfare. The amount you receive is based upon how much you contribute. If you didn't contribute, then you don't receive anything.