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Groklaw Will Be Archived At Library of Congress

inode_buddha writes "Groklaw has just received an invitation to be archived in the Library of Congress. In true FOSS style, PJ has decided to ask all the contributors and commenters if they wish to be included, since commenters own the copyrights on their comments. So far, the answer seems to be 'yes,' even for Anonymous Cowards. It's a great honor for Groklaw, but one wonders how many AC's there are, and whether Congress or future researchers would think that they are all one person."

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  1. Congrats by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I give my congratulations to PJ. She has done a remarkable service and has proven the Internet's power for citizen advocacy, education and activism. Her success can be measured by just how much her enemies tried to, and in some cases still try to discredit her.

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    1. Re:Congrats by msclrhd · · Score: 4, Informative

      It comes from the pronunciation of "blogs" in some accents:
          * /blA.gz/ -- the 'o' is pronounced the same as in "b(o)ther", where "f(a)ther" and "b(o)ther" are pronounced differently (e.g. British Accents) [to pronounce this, pronounce it as the "ah" in "f(a)ther", but round the lips like in "b(oo)k" and keep it a short sound]
          * /blA:gz/ -- the 'o' is pronounced the same as "f(a)ther", where "f(a)ther" and "b(o)ther" are pronounced the same (e.g. some American Accents)
          * /blOgz/ -- the 'o' is pronounced the same as "m(ore)" (e.g. some American Accents)

      The /blOgz/ pronunciation gets transliterated as "blawgs". Therefore, it is a transliteration of that accent and not a typo. It was probably chosen for this and (as people on Groklaw have noted) that it contains the word "law" in it.

      c.f. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_English_low_back_vowels

      NOTE: I am using Kirshenbaum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirshenbaum) as /. does not accept Unicode IPA characters.

  2. What shallI do? by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Funny

    I contributed several comments to Groklaw but those comments I lifted from a number of Slashdotters. How do I handle that? I just want to do the right thing.

    1. Re:What shallI do? by Dynedain · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Explain that in your response to Groklaw and let them figure it out.

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    2. Re:What shallI do? by RichardJenkins · · Score: 4, Funny

      The right thing is obviously to sue the true rights holders in a protracted and monumentally expensive legal battle dragging your name through the mud and ultimately making a complete ass of yourself, after artificially inflating your stock price for a little while.

    3. Re:What shallI do? by RockDoctor · · Score: 4, Funny

      The right thing is obviously to sue the true rights holders in a protracted and monumentally expensive legal battle dragging your name through the mud and ultimately making a complete ass of yourself, after artificially inflating your stock price for a little while.

      There is a man in Utah (I think) who is interested in your plan and wishes to invest his unemployment benefits in suing you for infringement of his patents. Call Darl@mcdonalds.ut.us

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  3. Re:Give generated IDs to anonymous cowards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or just prevent people contributing anonymously unless they give unconditional licence to reuse the prose, and affirm that they both own the content or have been granted permission to use it, or have fair use to it, under current copyright law.

    [This comment (c) 2010, Anonymous Coward #1123581321]

  4. One LoC + x by Reason58 · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is going to throw off my entire measurement system. What's the size of a Groklaw so I can add that in?

    1. Re:One LoC + x by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2, Funny

      About 2 and a half Slashdots.

  5. People are often dumb, but... by Angst+Badger · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's a great honor for Groklaw, but one wonders how many AC's there are, and whether Congress or future researchers would think that they are all one person.

    I rather doubt many future researchers would think that "Anonymous Coward" is one person, though I can't speak for members of Congress. I can certainly imagine Ted Stevens talking about the tremendously prolific output of A. Coward flowing through a series of tubes....

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    1. Re:People are often dumb, but... by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, it is the Library of CONGRESS.

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    2. Re:People are often dumb, but... by ljw1004 · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's amazing just how many books this "Ibid" chap has written.

      And "et al" seems a really common surname among authors of scientific papers.

  6. I hereby... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... give permission for all my comments to be archived without limitations.

    Yours truly,

    Anonymous Coward

    Now slashdot won't have to worry about that in the unlikely case anybody ever finds its contents useful enough to preserve them for future generations.

  7. And the Smithsonian is planning an exhibit of ... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... the mummified head of Daryl McBride on a pike.

    You toss in a quarter, and the head screams "I'll swallow your code! I'll swallow your code!," whilst you get to whack at it with a chainsaw and plink it with the shotgun out of the Smithsonian Housewares exhibit, and taunt it with Bruce Campbell grimaces.

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  8. Slashdot? by adenied · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps Slashdot should be included. But as a counter example.

    I keed I keed. You guys are all great! Except for the ones who aren't.

    Actually I got suckered into reading user comments on CNN.com the other day. Makes Slashdot look like powerful scholars who by all rights should be in charge of the playground. Not mopping up the melting snow with their ratty jackets.

    Damnit. I really do love you guys!

  9. Size of Groklaw archive by Curate · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does anyone know just how big the Groklaw archive is, anyway? Please answer in units of Libraries of Congresses, or LOCs. And how big will it be, in LOCs, after it gets added? And how big is the actual Library of Congress, in LOCs, both before and after the addition? I'd prefer it in metric LOCs (being Canadian), but I can convert from imperial LOCs if necessary. Thanks.

    1. Re:Size of Groklaw archive by Pop69 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Isn't it obvious that the Library of Congress is always equal to one LOC ?

      Your mistake is thinking that one LOC is a constant

  10. Re:Famous ACs by JoshuaZ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's not quite true. Even shortly after the Federalist Papers came out the set of authors was narrowed down quite a bit by intelligent speculation. Hamilton, John Jay and Madison were all named as possible authors (and in fact they were the three authors). After Hamilton died, documents in his possession showed that he was definitely an author and indicated that Madison was also an author. Moreover, there's a fair bit of evidence that when the essays were initially published, many people involved with the publishing and proof-reading knew who the authors were. What is more accurate is that it wasn't until much more modern work by historian Douglass Adair that we had a very good idea which were authored by which of the three. However, even that was well-established by 1970. So the comparison to AC is interesting but not so accurate.

  11. Re:Famous ACs by JoshuaZ · · Score: 2

    Sorry, and one other important detail: After Hamilton's death, Madison publicly acknowledged that he and Hamilton were primary authors. He also confirmed the then also deceased Jay's authorship and gave a complete list of who wrote which (although Hamilton's personal list had some contradictions with Madison's list).

  12. Censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    PJ is notorious for censoring comments that she doesn't like. For instance, any reference to AllParadox will get your comment removed.

    It is PJ's blog and she can do what she likes but it isn't nearly as transparent as she would have us believe. It would be nice if they could restore the censored comments and archive those too.

  13. Re:Anonymous Coward Comment Ownership by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    By the way, this comment is hereby placed in the public domain.

    And Google will be charge $1.99 for each access to it.

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  14. No New Groklaw Accounts = Anonymous Cowards by DodgeRules · · Score: 2, Informative

    Reguarding the Anonymous Cowards comment, PJ had disabled new accounts so it is currently impossible for anyone to create one. All new users have no choice BUT to be anonymous. Some also prefer NOT to be anonymous, but their accounts were disabled/deleted because they posted a serious comment that was against popular opinion and labeled a troll. That isn't to say there aren't a lot of trolls there, because there are.