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Son Sues Mother Over Facebook Posts
Most kids hate having their parents join in on a discussion on Facebook, but one 16-year-old in Arkansas hates it so much he has filed suit against his mother, charging her with harassment. From the article: "An Arkadelphia mother is charged with harassment for making entries on her son's Facebook page. Denise New's 16-year-old son filed charges against her last month and requested a no-contact order after he claims she posted slanderous entries about him on the social networking site. New says she was just trying to monitor what he was posting." Seems like he could just unfriend her.
I suppose simply unfriending her would not be feasible. (Maybe she'd take away his computer if he tried or punish him or something)
There are clear and easy alternatives. Delete her posts after she makes them, or even better, use Facebook privacy controls to remove her ability to comment on his posts. I'm kinda surprised he didn't put her on Limited Profile, like everyone else seems to do. That's the best because people don't always realize they're being shut out of something.
The kid's grandparents have custody. But more importantly, there is never a good reason to write any human being off as 'trash.' Never. Not even Hitler. If we just wrote him off as 'trash' we would never understand how he came to exist. We human beings have empathy for a reason.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
I meant the article, not the people involved. "Family in middle America has fucked up issues." Why is this interesting?
One word: Arkansas.
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Now, I don't use Facebook (or any similar site), but can't he just block her?
/b/tard attack, they'll get bored and go away if you ignore it long enough. Welcome to the internet, thar'be trolls here.
Since when have people become so helpless online that they cry for help every time somebody does something they don't like? You can TAKE YOURSELF OF OF ANY SITUATION ONLINE.
This is why I have no tolerance for anyone using the term cyber-bullying. Even if you have a full-on
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You said, "Either the kid's worthless or the mom is" Very few people are truly worthless, and if they are, we as a society need to figure out if we let them down in some way. We would all be better off if everyone were happy, well adjusted, and could contribute to society, don't you think? Or do you think that all the less worthwhile people should just die already to make more room for the rest of us?
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
I heard a story a few days where Parents lost custody of their kid because, "They were teaching the child that the government can not be trusted."
Because prisonplanet and infowars are news websites of great repute. Oh wait...
According to the article; she isn't his costodian, and she didn't just post on his wall; she stole his password and posted to his wall as him. So identity theft much? Computer crime much?
The fact that a Judge granted the restraining order against a women on behalf of a 16yo male(son) also should be a good indication of the situation.
I heard a story a few days where Parents lost custody of their kid because, "They were teaching the child that the government can not be trusted."
Citation?
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
I see that most people are commenting on just the headline without understanding the issues because they haven't read the...
wait, this is slashdot. I suppose it's not surprising.
Still this is one time that not reading the article is going to bite you in the ass.
A custodial parent does have the right to discipline their child. This parent could remove access and legally post (from their account) comments on their child's wall. Whether or not they have the right to hack the kids account is really not clear at this point. First, a parent doing this is generally violating the terms of use agreement of the website in question. Second, there are specific laws in some regions regarding this type of approach which would make it a crime.
This situation is pretty clear - the mom vastly overstepped her bounds and needs to be smacked for it. If it were my kid and they were living with me, I'd ask to see their account - if they refused to show it to me or I saw things that were troubling, I'd deal with them by denying access to the computer at my house and grounding them unless they deleted their account permanently or cleaned it up.
Parents do have ways to coerce their kids into cooperating. If the kids want to call family services falsely to get mom and dad back, go ahead. Their new home isn't likely to have a computer or parents that care or necessarily even be that safe an environment. Foster parents cover the gamut from loving, capable people to those who are prone to abuse children. I would never let my kid blackmail me. Don't like the rules, you may leave...my dad said that and I hate to parrot him now but he was right. Boundaries are too important to make deals and give up moral authority on.
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Or do you think that all the less worthwhile people should just die already to make more room for the rest of us?
Yes. And I work for a human services agency. Come work here and see what some people are capable of and then get back to me about how "very few people are truly worthless". I can find nothing redeeming in the individual that would put her drug habit and boyfriend ahead of her kids. I can find nothing redeeming in the individual that prostituted her 11 year old out to repay a drug debt. I can find nothing redeeming in the individual that uses lame ass excuses like "I can't afford gas" (particularly when my agency GIVES THEM GAS MONEY) to avoid having to see their kids.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Well if ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, et cetera are censoring the news by ignoring these stories, then you have to turn to alternate sources.
Do you have any proof that the story you referred to is being censored by those news outlets? Do you have any citation to any public records to show that this incident actually happened? I've read the story both on infowars and prisonplanet and neither of them have any details. They make vague claims about a "couple in texas" that had their kid taken away. Considering these websites long track record of posting bullshit and phoney stories, you'd have to be a nutjob to believe it.
Umm, left out the part about the illegal drugs being found in their residence and the fact that their anti-government views were but ONE of the claims levied against them.
Mind you, I don't think marijuana should be illegal but it rather changes your story when you discover that the parents were arrested on drug charges before CPS got involved. You shouldn't have left that detail out.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
If a child's willing to go that far, it's probably a safe bet that their family's already pretty fucked up.
Choices come from life experience, genetics, and circumstance. "Choices" are not uncaused causes. Every choice has a reason it was made.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
This is slashdot, it is perfectly acceptable to do just that. In fact, it's implied.
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The choices that people make do not come out of the blue. They are not uncaused causes. They are part of an unbroken chain of cause and effect, and if we want to have a better world with less suffering, we must understand why people make the choices they do. Just saying 'they are worthless people' doesn't answer anything, contains no predictive power as a theory, and does nothing except provide an excuse not to care about a problem.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
It's moving towards 1984 where parents were afraid to speak, for fear the kids would report them, and the CPS would arrest the mom and dad.
No it isn't. Kids being able to get themselves taken into custody by the CPS just because they don't like their parents is nothing like the police state described in 1984. I wish people would stop noticing loose similarities between the world we live in and the world described in 1984. It was supposed to be reminiscent of the real world. It was supposed to encourage vigilance, not paranoia. Thanks to every idiot on the 'net citing 1984 in every discussion thread on every subject, the book is rapidly becoming a joke. We need a variant of Godwin's law to cover this.
As for that story you refer to, I imagine there's more to it than has been revealed. While there may be a troubling aspect to what happened, I am not in the habit of condemning people or organisations - especially government organisations - based on n-th hand reports on the Internet - they tend to have a distorting focus.
Ignoring made-up stuff by nutjobs seems a legitimate role for news organisations.
For every problem, there is at least one solution that is simple, neat, and wrong.
A) Working for a lawyer doesn't make you correct. It's bad logic. You are correct, but tossing on where you work is irrelevant.
B) A 16 year old doesn't know a correct legal term, so what? It makes him ignorant not an idiot.
C) YOU are an idiot and here is why:
Had you READ the article you should have noted "His mother doesn't not have custodial rights.". Don't they teach you to read after 2 years of working for a lawyer?
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Then why haven't those stories been reported on Fox News? Or are they also now a bastion of the Democratic party as well?
There is a war going on for your mind.
Stop worrying about who's "to blame" for things and instead concentrate on identifying causal relationships and you may find yourself better able to reach useful conclusions. Fault is irrelevant, concentrate on cause and effect and you'll be more likely to come up with practical actions to affect outcomes.
Don't blame "Society" for his mistakes... "We" didn't let him down. He did it all by himself.
Nature versus nurture, my friend.
It is easy to blame them when they're despicable people. But your emotional satisfaction doesn't obviate the observation that different situations can lead to different results under otherwise similar circumstances.
I failed to see mention of race in the post. Perhaps the racism resides within you.
Why is it so hard to only have politicians for a few years, then have them go away?
Right, the kid should cut himself off from something his peers consider normal behavior because his mom is a whack job.
Wait, why?
They had their loser-nature beaten into them by circumstance
I honestly could care less. I've met people that have survived far worse than the "parents" of the kids my agency works with. None of them are putting cigarettes out on their kids or prostituting them out for money and/or drugs. Circumstance only goes so far as a rationalization for bad behavior and there comes a point when the individual needs to be held accountable for his or her choices.
Most of the real sociopathic parasites on the ass of society are CEOs or board members of Fortune 500 companies, not sad children of broken families.
Umm, at what point have I said that the children are parasites? I believe I was reserving my bile for their so-called parents.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
No, that would probably rise to the level of deadly force:
"Deadly physical force" means physical force which, under the circumstances in which it is used, is readily capable of causing death or other serious physical injury.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
You confuse cynicism with a lack of passion. I care greatly for the clients that we service. I just think that the people who fucked them up badly enough to require our services aren't deserving of any further consideration from civilized society.
Also, fuck you. I'll work wherever the hell I feel like, thank you very much.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Congratulations on doing exactly what you chastised the poster for; making an assertion and then providing no proof.
What the fuck are you talking about? The sole citation for his claim is a story that has little to no actual facts, such as the names of this couple or the name of the city and county that the incident supposedly happened in, that can be used to verify the incident. Nor can you find any public records to back up the claims in the story. Lastly, Alex Jones has been well-known for making up stories that routinely turn out to be false. I'm not sure what part of anything I've stated is an assertion without proof. My statements come from actually having read the story.
Bravo on being modded insightful for such obvious hypocrisy.
Bravo for being an idiot.
"Southern" is not a race.
It takes a hell of a lot to get your child taken away from you if you are female. If the situation were reversed, the father would have lost custody in an instant.
It takes a hell of a lot to get your child taken away from you if you are female. If the situation were reversed, the father would have lost custody in an instant.
plus alimony, plus child support, plus jail time, plus...
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I spent a decade in Arkansas one summer... trust me, any disparaging remarks you can heap on those people are well deserved.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
The place I see "racism" is in the very idea of the assumption that anyone from the south deserves to be denigrated and disrespected automatically, as if there are no ignorant people or bigots from elsewhere.
What you describe is bigotry and prejudice, not racism. Clearly there are bigots elsewhere as evidenced by the post you are complaining about (which if you think about it is beautifully ironic). Having visited the rural south of the US for the first time a couple of weeks ago I found the people extremely polite and friendly and the countryside was beautiful. So if some of your fellow citizens don't appreciate that just be thankful that it will probably help you stay that way.
From Wikipedia entry for Arkadelphia:
"The racial makeup of the city was 68.98% White, 26.51% Black or African American, 0.53% Native American, 1.29% Asian, 0.05% Pacific Islander, 1.35% from other races, and 1.28% from two or more races. 2.59% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race."
So, what race of this variegated city is being prejudged here?
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'Southern' is not a race, holmes.
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Its not unusual to see 25 year old grandmas
So it's not unusual for two successive generations to have kids aged 12 years old? Where the fuck do you live, Utah?
yes, they can be found just about anywhere, there just happens to be a high concentration in the south. I find this conversation quite silly as I am from the south and can quite readily attest to this fact. Yes, lots of great things have come from the south, Mark Twain for one, but let us not forget the south also gave us Larry The Cable Guy.
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Ah, so because some members of a group fit into a stereotype, that means it's ok to use it as a generalization. I'm sure you'd, likewise, have no problem with me saying that all blacks are criminals, and the French are smelly wine-guzzling cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
If you say it jokingly, it's absolutely fine. Jokes about racial/ethnic/religious/whatever stereotypes are the funniest ever, along with most other jokes where the setting and/or punchline is deeply politically incorrect.