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Foursquare Turns Down $100M

theodp writes "Valleywag is stupefied that 'an annoying, unprofitable social network like Foursquare would turn down $100 million,' a move inspired in part by Twitter's 2008 rejection of a $500 million offer from Facebook, which in turn once rejected a $900 million bid from Yahoo. Time will tell whether the move by Foursquare was a prescient one, but it's certainly gutsy. After all, today's $850 million company can prove to be tomorrow's worthless one, right AOL?"

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  1. WTF? by Jaysyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Christ, I don't think I've ever even heard of these guys. They should have took the money & ran.

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    1. Re:WTF? by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

      Christ, I don't think I've ever even heard of these guys. They should have took the money & ran.

      Agreed. With that kind of money you could almost afford your own US Senator ... or US Representative at the least. With one of those they could start pushing their pro-Square agenda. For far too long the Mods and the Rockers have enjoyed an unquestioned two party system ...

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    2. Re:WTF? by ircmaxell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unless this is a marketing ploy (Have a friend "offer" $100 Million, just so you can turn it down publicly)... After all, news that a social site turns down huge money would likely generate publicity...

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    3. Re:WTF? by bFusion · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't think Yahoo has any friends.

    4. Re:WTF? by reverseengineer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apparently, this same guy had a similar project called "Dodgeball" which Google bought out in 2005- and then killed in 2009 to replace with Google Latitude. I don't know how much he got for Dodgeball, but it may be that he really can afford to walk away from offers now. Both Dodgeball and "Foursquare" are/were location-based social networking services for mobile devices- Foursquare appears to tweak the concept by turning it into a sort of Zynga-style game where you earn awards for using the service. 100 million bucks for that.

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    5. Re:WTF? by FreeUser · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A 2 minute long video, that's a howto.
      30 seconds in I got bored.
      even with this publicity, I think it is unlikely to take off.

      Besides, losers who use foursquare are just begging to be stalked. It makes Facebook's abysmal privacy look positively friendly by comparison.

      In fact, stalking foursquare losers ("fourstalking") has become quite the pastime, so much so that this attention junkie quit the service, despite craving the attention. A part of me feels sympathy...while another part can't help but feel these narcissists are getting exactly what they deserve.

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  2. Well.. by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why would one offer them 100 mio for it if it's so worthless, for one.

    For two, why is money such a big deal? If you love what you do and can provide for yourself with it, why whore yourselves out? It's not about being filthy rich, but doing what you love, right?

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    1. Re:Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is easier to do what you love when you are filthy rich.

    2. Re:Well.. by A+Name+Similar+to+Di · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I logged in for the first time in a year just to agree with you. There was a survey a few years back (sorry I couldn't find the link) suggesting that many business owners regret going public and losing control of their company, despite the cash they made.

      I realize Four Square's case isn't the same as going public, but it's similar. If you love what you do and already make good money, why ruin it? And for the record, you can pay everyone's salary and still make zero profit, so "unprofitable" doesn't mean that the people working there aren't making good money.

  3. Already rich and still driven by wombatmobile · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dennis Crowley learned two things from his earlier experience of selling Dodgeball to Google. 1. A big company like Google can destroy a little company. 2. When your bank account is 8 digits big, 9 digits is not as important as following your passion.

  4. Fuck Everything by jayhawk88 · · Score: 5, Funny

    We're going Fivesquare

  5. Upstarts. by MaWeiTao · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These start-ups love to pass themselves off as scrappy little guys nipping at the heels of giants. In my experience these companies, the vast majority of the time, are backed by investors with very deep pockets. These guys are undoubtedly banking on the hope that this investment will pay off in a big way. There's this infatuation investors have with these social sites and it's easy to see why. Minimal investment, little substance, but the pay offs can be huge if people get hooked. Why spend a fortune building a company that actually makes product, with the expense and work that comes with it, when you can just do this? And given that development can easily be outsourced to India these ventures even more attractive.

    Right now they're at the hype generating phase. By turning down this offer they have garnered media attention. And amongst the ignorant masses people will believe that these guys are principled. I think they're waiting to hit critical mass with users. Their hope is that they become the next Twitter. Then they'll sell especially if they haven't figured out a way to make money on something that seems completely pointless.

  6. Inaccurate title and summary by noahm · · Score: 4, Informative
    Foursquare hasn't turned down anything, as far as anybody knows. In fact, the Yahoo! buyout is still only rumor. The article is basically representing the opinion of some analyst entrepreneur. Quoting from the article:

    Sometimes making a fortune is dumb, writes entrepreneur Charlie O'Donnell—which is why, O'Donnell adds, Foursquare will wisely walk away from a rumored $100 million offer from Yahoo.

    Who's Charlie O'Donnell? What's his role in Foursquare? Is he really making statements on their behalf? I doubt it. Quoting from the photo caption later on,

    [Photo: Laughing Squid's pic of Foursquare CEO Dennis Crowley who, to be fair, may not have turned down anything yet.]

    So, wtf? There's no story here, it's just some random dude repeating what some other random dude said would be a wise move.

  7. not really a security risk by SethJohnson · · Score: 4, Informative

    A lot of people believe this to be the security risk. That a criminal will monitor a Loopt or Foursquare account to figure out when a house is unoccupied. In the real world, that's a far more sophisticated approach than what house burglars use.

    Instead, they knock on the door of a house that appears unoccupied. If someone answers, they say, "Oh, I'm looking for my friend, Sally. Does she still live here?" If no one answers, then they proceed with the burglary. Finding empty houses does not require internet technology.

    Seth