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Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

cremeglace writes "In an unusual last-minute edit that has drawn flak from the White House and science educators, a federal advisory committee omitted data on Americans' knowledge of evolution and the Big Bang from a key report. The data shows that Americans are far less likely than the rest of the world to accept that humans evolved from earlier species and that the universe began with a big bang."

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  1. Re:Not the White House. by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "not meant to be anti-agw, though obviously, until tried or proven from first principles, the jury is still out"

    RF = 5.35*ln(C2/C1) = 3.71 W/M^2 for a doubling of CO2 concentration - Fourier's 1824 prediction of the GHG properties of CO2 derived from it's spectra. Faraday confirmed Fourier's predictions by experiment in the 1850's. A modern version of that experiment can be seen here.

    "Anyone mentioning the subtle detail that climate is chaotic"

    Usually doesn't know the difference between climate and weather, let alone the difference between forcings and feedbacks.

    "The only systems we can predict are systems that are, thermodynamically speaking, in equilibrium."

    Yeah right, the size of expansion joints in bridges and railway tracks are picked out of a hat.

    "But if the AGW "debate" proves anything, it's that science is no longer allowed to tell people "we don't know"."

    No, what it proves is that a measly few million bucks worth of anti-science propoganda can create a huge army of usefull idiots such as yourself to create the impression of a debate about a well understood climate forcing.

    The rest of the "science" in your post is so wrong it makes creationist arguments look reasonable. The whole thing is an accurate demonstration of the GP's astute observation that "stupid and pissed off (at the IPCC) is the new cool".

    Ironically, your post also contains the cure for your ignorance in your call to teach scientific philosophy, unfortunately you don't seem to have taken your own advise and uncritically repeat the misinformation and red-herrings fed to you by lobbyists.

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    And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.