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StarCraft Cheating Scandal Rocks Korea

dotarray writes with this snippet: "The largest scandal in e-sports history is currently unfolding in Korea, with revelations that a number of current pro gamers are involved with match setups and illegal betting. While the gamers are unnamed at this point, the story is said to touch many A-list StarCraft celebrities, including sAviOr, Ja Mae Yoon, one of the best-known and most successful players of all time."

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  1. Name is wrong - Jae Yoon Ma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    His first name is Jae Yoon, and his surname is Ma. Typically written in Korean with the surname first, as Ma Jae Yoon. Ja Mae Yoon is wrong.

  2. Re:A-list? What? by Some.Net(Guy) · · Score: 5, Informative

    In Korea, video gaming is a professional sport. These guys they mention are bigger celebrities to Koreans than, say, LeBron James is to Americans. You think I'm joking or exaggerating, but I assure you I am not.

  3. Re:A-list? What? by DreadPiratePizz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually yes, in Korea they do have the tabloids cover them. Some even date actresses. Everybody knows of Boxer, Savior and Bisu. Everybody.

  4. Re:A-list? What? by tensop · · Score: 2, Informative

    Starcraft is korea's national sport. they're most definately celebrities

  5. Re:A-list? What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Right, because everyone must be a native english speaker to make a point.

  6. Re:As long as it's not Boxer, I'm ok by gzipped_tar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Criminals? I guess you mean criminal suspects, since it's the police rather than the court that "have gotten involved".

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  7. Re:A-list? What? by EvanED · · Score: 5, Informative

    A couple posts (e.g. the top one on this page) dispute it's at that degree of popularity:

    bjornkavist:

    You over estimate the popularity of Starcraft. Since this is a Starcraft site that covers pro BW from a foreign stand point it seems like the biggest thing in the world. When sadly, when compared to Hockey in Canada, or Football in the States, its no where near as popular. Yes people know about it, tons do, compared to other countries but Koreand definately dont breathe Starcraft.

    PanzerDragoon:

    I would say SC is most comparable to MMA in the states; a niche sport with a decent sized hardcore fanbase, but not wide casual appeal.

  8. Re:A-list? What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ma Jae-Yoon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_Jae-Yoon

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ma+Jae-Yoon

  9. Re:A-list? What? by SeeSchloss · · Score: 2, Informative

    The pics in http://images.google.com/images?q=%EB%A7%88%EC%9E%AC%EC%9C%A4 are more representative of his status.

  10. Re:A-list? What? by crossmr · · Score: 5, Informative

    mainly because you're a tool. Here is what a search of him in Korea looks like:
    http://search.naver.com/search.naver?sm=tab_hty&where=nexearch&query=%B8%B6%C0%E7%C0%B1&x=0&y=0

    news sites, images, magazine covers, videos, etc

  11. This does deserve a story by n_are_q · · Score: 2, Informative

    As someone who occasionally follows the SC happenings in Korea, I can attest to the fact that this is a huge story there. The fame of these players really is comparable to that of football or basketball stars in the states.

    More to the point, there is real talent, years of honing your skill, and real fans involved here. That's what makes this match fixing a real deal. That's too bad, this young sport deserves better.

  12. Re:How is this news? by Dalambertian · · Score: 3, Informative

    For more info, you can follow the coverage at teamliquid's forums. Click to expand the "spoilers". http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119403

  13. Further Information by ahaubold · · Score: 2, Informative
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  14. Re:As long as it's not Boxer, I'm ok by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, you're absolutely correct.

  15. Re:Sport? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Informative

    The IOC are a group of corrupt, money-grubbing assholes who would gladly certify a non-sport as a sport for a shockingly low amount of money. You didn't hear about all the journalists who won awards for exposing them to the world a few years back?

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  16. Re:In a way it's nice.. by apoc.famine · · Score: 2, Informative

    They're not even a role model for how to rake in the dough - your chance of having the skills and grooming to play a pro sport is approximately on par with your chance of getting struck by lightning. Seriously - how many pro golfers can you name? 600 people get hit by lightning in the US every year. We're not adding 600 world-famous golfers each year, that's for sure.

    It blows my mind how many kids are fed the lies that they can make it in pro sports. I your skills aren't better than 1 in 100,000, you're not going to make it into pro sports.

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  17. Bull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "...most sex offenders are repeat offenders..." is false.

    Sex offenders are less likely to show recidivism than most other folks jailed for felonies. It's one of the very few crimes where we do a good job of helping offenders control themselves.

    The parent is lying, plain and simple.

  18. Re:recidivism by g0del · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wrong. Recidivism rates are much higher for people who are driven by a desire for money than they are for sexual offenders. Evidence from http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/ascii/rpr94.txt
    "Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were --

    robbers (70.2%)
    burglars (74.0%)
    larcenists (74.6%)
    motor vehicle thieves (78.8%)
    possessors/sellers of
    stolen property (77.4%)
    possessors/sellers of
    illegal weapons (70.2%).

    What these high-rate offenders have in common is that they were all in prison for what are generally thought of as crimes for money. By contrast, many of those with the lowest rearrest rates -- persons convicted of homicide (40.7%), rapists (46.0%), other sexual assaulters (41.4%), other violent offenders (51.7%), and those convicted of driving under the influence (51.5%) -- were in prison for crimes not generally motivated by desire for material gain."

    Sexual offenders and pedophiles are a problem, but attempting to solve it with bad data won't work.