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British Chiropractors Drop Case Against Simon Singh

SJrX writes "Several sources are reporting that the British Chiropractic Association has dropped its lawsuit against famed writer Simon Singh. He had recently won a High Court ruling in his favour, but this had been open for appeal." Also covered at The Independent and at MacLeans. Singh had angered the chiropractors' trade group with his published claim that certain chiropractice treatments were "bogus."

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  1. Glad to see the UK upholding freedom of speech by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was truly surprised that Singh was sued in the first place for seemingly innocuous remarks about chiropractors. Yes, his comments basically called them to task for their industry group's assertion that chiropractic could basically cure all sorts of illnesses.

    Hopefully this serves as a warning to other "slandered" groups that they had better have something more substantial than hurt feelings if they want to abridge someone's freedom of speech.

    1. Re:Glad to see the UK upholding freedom of speech by Volante3192 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The BCA still ruined his life for a good year or two. That's a wonderful deterrant against people with smaller bankrolls.

    2. Re:Glad to see the UK upholding freedom of speech by c++0xFF · · Score: 5, Informative

      Singh might go after them for his legal fees. That would be about a £100,000 loss to the BCA (not to mention what they spent already). It doesn't make it better for Singh, but it's still a victory for everybody else. And this might spark a reform in the libel law, which is another win for everybody else.

      So far, Singh has been hit the hardest, but the fight isn't over yet. I don't know if we can make things easier on him directly, but maybe the other side can still be hit hard.

    3. Re:Glad to see the UK upholding freedom of speech by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Informative

      It was more than just an innocuous remark. He co-authored a book explaining why it was bogus. They did this to discredit him.

      Now, I'm going to buy the book.

  2. Not completely bogus by spun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They can make back pain marginally better. That's not bogus at all. They can not, however, fix much of anything else, which was Singh's complaint against them, because they claim they can fix everything from gout to cancer.

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    1. Re:Not completely bogus by NecroPuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The one that got me was their claims that they could cure colic.

      Back pain? Sure, no problem.
      Neck pain? Sometimes; depends on why the pain is there.
      Shoulder pain? I'll even buy that one.

      Colic? Often caused by gas, treated by moving the baby around. (Driving works, for some reason.)

      But [Eddie Izzard] cracking the bones [/Eddie Izzard]??? Not so much.

      I'm wondering how many chiropractically treated colic cases are going to wind up phsycially screwed up because of this... We won't know for another dozen years, tho.

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    2. Re:Not completely bogus by backdoc · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I had a bad experience with a plumber one time. Should I say the entire profession is bad?

      I am a chiropractor. I no longer practice though. Why? Because I never subscribed to the chiropractic philosophy. I don't agree with the philosophical principles that chiropractic is founded on. But, that doesn't mean that it doesn't benefit millions of people beyond what any other health care profession can provide. Chiropractic provides more than symptomatic relief. It restores normal mobility to the joints. And, this is what I believe provides relief. I guess an Osteopath could provide that service, too.

      The problem I've seen is that percentage wise, only a small number of people seek Chiropractic care. So, to make a living, that forces the unscrupulous chiropractor to treat conditions outside of their scope or keep the patient coming in longer than necessary, under false information. I could never do either. So, I went back to school and got a degree in CS. I'm much happier.

      But, I want to correct you. Although my personality conflicts with the principles of the profession, Chiropractic does not resemble massage. It is not quackery.

      I am fully convinced that Chiropractors prevent thousands of unnecessary surgeries every year. When it comes to neuromusculoskeletal conditions, I don't think other health care providers can make that claim.

      I think the key is to find a Chiropractor by referral. If you they are helping you (give it a couple of weeks), then good for you. Otherwise, try something else.

    3. Re:Not completely bogus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm a fan of whiskey and soundproofing. Doesn't matter who you use it on, the crying isn't so bad after.

    4. Re:Not completely bogus by rikkards · · Score: 4, Informative

      I appreciate your honesty. My wife experienced a mild stroke in 2004 due to an upper neck adjustment that ended up bounding back a couple days later and pinched a blood vessel. She has experienced vertigo since which is finally subsiding. She also was seeing a chiro for years before that happened. She ended up seeing a physio therapist afterwards and since then has had a lot of the initial problems dealt with.

  3. Chiropractor fixed my long-standing back problems by el_flynn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to work as a helpdesk consultant -- this was waay back 13 years ago -- and part of my duties was to lug bigass monitors for the company from one workstation to another (they were a publishing house with a lot of DTP guys). One day I lifted a monitor the wrong way, and long story short -- the back pain stayed with me right up until a couple of months ago.

    Used to be I couldn't lie face-down for more than 10 minutes before my back would start hurting. And I couldn't carry my kids much. One day the pain got so bad I went to a chiro, and the guy did manage to straighten out my back. Hurt like heck when he "realigned" my spine, but that 13-year-injury is no longer there.

    So yeah, I used to think they're bogus. But now I dont. YMMV.

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  4. If you drop it just right... by T+Murphy · · Score: 5, Funny

    "British Chiropractors Drop Case Against Simon Singh" -newspapers
    "Well that's a load off my back" -Singh
    "See! Our treatment works!" -chiropracters

  5. Re:Chiropractor fixed my long-standing back proble by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > So yeah, I used to think they're bogus.

    They are. A massage therapist could helped you more and with less hocus-pocus.

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  6. Re:Chiropractor fixed my long-standing back proble by The+Yuckinator · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did the chiro also offer to cure your diabetes? Cancer? Emphysema? Bad skin? This is what Singh was commenting on - the widespread, and supported-by-the-association claims to actually cure disease via Chiropractic Manipulation.

    Bogus, indeed.

  7. Re:Most are bogus... by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 4, Funny

    But the placebo effect is really great!

    Let's hope they offer him more than a placebo for his accumulated legal costs.

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  8. Re:Chiropractor fixed my long-standing back proble by Rantastic · · Score: 5, Informative

    Used to be I couldn't lie face-down for more than 10 minutes before my back would start hurting. And I couldn't carry my kids much. One day the pain got so bad I went to a chiro, and the guy did manage to straighten out my back. Hurt like heck when he "realigned" my spine, but that 13-year-injury is no longer there. So yeah, I used to think they're bogus. But now I dont.

    Except that while you may have seen a Chiropractor, I am willing to bet that he was also a licensed physical therapist. What you have described is a physical therapy treatment, not a chiropractic treatment.

    This is the reason that a lot of people think that chiropractic treatments are legitimate: They are receiving physical therapy treatments from so called "mixed" chiropractors.

    Strict, or so called "straight" chiropractors claim they can fix any problem in the body (heart disease, cancer, whatever) by manipulating your bones and muscles. That kind of nonsense is right up there with balancing the humors to restore the body's vitality.

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  9. Re:Chiropractor fixed my long-standing back proble by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Informative

    Chiropractic treatment (massage therapy and physical therapy) has been well established as an effective treatment for back pain, and many "chiropractors" end both their claims and treatments there.

    The problem is, true Chiropractic goes much further, claiming that a wide variety of diseases are caused by "misalignments" of the spine, other joints, and soft tissue. "Traditional chiropractic assumes that a vertebral subluxation or spinal joint dysfunction interferes with the body's function and its innate intelligence." In many cases, these claims are demonstrably false.

    "Chiropractic is often described as two professions masquerading as one. Unlike the distinction between podiatry (a science-based profession for foot disorders) and foot reflexology (an unscientific philosophy which posits that many disorders arise from the feet), in chiropractic the two professions attempt to live under one roof, albeit with much tension between them."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic

  10. Re:Chiropractor fixed my long-standing back proble by catmistake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Probably not. Massage therapists work on muscles; I've never heard of one doing a spine adjustment. I, too, firmly believe 99% of chiroprators are full of shit, but the one thing they seem to do well is straighten the back... mostly they treat the symptom of back pain. But if the adjustment permanently removes the pain, I call that a cure, regardless of the quackery behind their methods.

    I'd never go to a chiropractor, ever. I'd go to an orthopedic specialist that's a doctor of osteopathic medicene, though... but of course, their science IS science. There are many D.O. chief of surgeons and D.O.'s that run hospitals. I'd even go so far to say the D.O. is better than the M.D., as far as the skill of the healer is concerned... just not as popular.

  11. Re:Chiropractor fixed my long-standing back proble by abdulwahid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    > So yeah, I used to think they're bogus.

    They are. A massage therapist could helped you more and with less hocus-pocus.

    I had a bad back problem a few years ago after doing martial arts. The regular doctor told me I would never be able to do sports again, gave me some drugs for the pain and I was given some massage session. One year later, I was still in pain. Although it did come and go but at the worst points I couldn't do simple things like lift the kids into the car or push a shopping trolley. I used to take pain killers and tried various different massage techniques.

    I went to two chiros. The first was bogus. He pulled and pushed me around and I didn't feel any better afterwards. A few months later I went to a second one at had a greatly different experience. He was very methodical and explained exactly what he was doing and where the problems in my body where. Many clicks later and a few sesssions later I felt much better. I could stand straight again with ease - no pulling pain sensation like before.

    Now it has been a good few years and I have no back problems anymore. I even play sport again normally.

    My conclusion was that there are a lot of bogus people out their practising these types of techniques but perhaps with a really skilled person and with very specific problems in the back, their techniques really can help.

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  12. Re:Chiropractor fixed my long-standing back proble by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Mr. Singh didn't say that all Chiropractic procedures are bogus. It's the stuff about curing allergies and diabetes and stuff - that is the bogus part. But don't take this to mean that a good chiropractor can't work wonders if you have disc problems.