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At Last, Flying Cars?

ColdWetDog writes, "OK, we've all whined about the fact that we are now firmly entrenched in the 21st Century and no flying cars. So it is gratifying to see that our good friends at DARPA are finally going to do something about it." The project is called Transformer TX. "The Government's envisioned concept consists of a robust ground vehicle that is capable of configuring into a VTOL air vehicle with a maximum payload capability of approximately 1,000 lbs. ... Technologies of interest may include: hybrid electric drive, advanced batteries, adaptive wing structures, ducted fan propulsion systems, advanced lightweight heavy fuel engines, lightweight materials, advanced sensors, and flight controls for stable transition from vertical to horizontal flight. ... Like all DARPA projects Transformer TX is unlikely to succeed at all. Even if US Marine rifle companies one day do ride to war in handy four-man sky jeeps rather than cumbersome choppers or Humvees, that doesn't necessarily mean flying cars for all any more than Harriers or Ospreys did."

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  1. Keep this off the streets by aliddell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not sure that the average driver needs to worry about three dimensions if he can't handle two well enough.

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    1. Re:Keep this off the streets by aliddell · · Score: 4, Funny

      We can get Toyota to do that.

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    2. Re:Keep this off the streets by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      We can get Toyota to do [computer control]

      The difference is that there's less to hit if you can't stop:

      "Sorry, Boss, I had to go to Vegas, it's a Toyota flyer."
           

    3. Re:Keep this off the streets by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > In urban areas they'd probably have to be computer-controlled

      They'll have to be computer-controlled everywhere. At low speeds and low altitudes the user may sometimes be permitted the illusion that he is driving.

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  2. flying robotic overlords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I for one welcome our Autobot overlords.

    1. Re:flying robotic overlords by SteveFoerster · · Score: 4, Funny

      I for one welcome our Autobot overlords.

      Autobots don't fly, Decepticons do. Thus, we're doomed.

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  3. Strange definition of success by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Like all DARPA projects Transformer TX is unlikely to succeed at all.

    You have a strange definition of success. Hint: DARPA is a research organization.

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    1. Re:Strange definition of success by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You mean like that DARPA TCP/IP project... that was certainly unlikely to succeed at all!

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  4. Re:Cool. by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Informative

    So when do I get my robot servant?

    Well, we're part-way there:

    http://store.irobot.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=2804605

  5. Too Heavy? by Mikkeles · · Score: 5, Funny

    '... a VTOL air vehicle with a maximum payload capability of approximately 1,000 lbs?.'

    So a typical US family of four won't be able to acheive lift-off in it!

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    1. Re:Too Heavy? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      You can take along either the luggage or the kids. Not both.

      Unless you put your kids into the suitcase.

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    2. Re:Too Heavy? by Potor · · Score: 4, Funny

      I tagged this: "fitsoneamerican"

  6. Re:Cool. by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Funny

    By "servant", you mean "sexbot", right?

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  7. Re:Cool. by pinkj · · Score: 3, Funny

    I assume yes, but I think it would be nice for the robot to clean up after sex as well.

  8. Dirigibles please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One of the main problems with the concept of a flying car is that if the engines stop it doesn't just roll to a halt; it falls out of the sky.

    We need to get away from this idea of flying cars as small jet planes and think more about personal blimps. Let's quit trying to fly and start floating.

    Oh and helium is impractical. Bring back hydrogen. Sure it's explosive - but so is the stuff you put in your car! We give up on it because of one infamous accident? Hardly rational.

  9. Re:Cool. by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If it can sexually service men, clean up afterwards, and then fetch beer and a pizza... then our species is doomed!

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  10. Flying Cars Energy Hogs By Nature by cmholm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Unless someone develops a low energy input, low mass anti-gravity mechanism, flying cars are never going to be commonplace, merely niche vehicles.

    The why should be obvious: it takes a lot of energy to get one in the air. Even standard small prop aircraft gets middling mileage, and earns points only by its ability to fly in a straight line. However, it needs a lot of room for take off and landing.

    Hence, a practical flying car needs to be VTOL, which is by its nature very energy inefficient.

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  11. There goes the old saying out the window ---- by bagboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    "You're more likely to die in a car accident than while flying"...

  12. I haven't... by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OK, we've all whined about the fact that we are now firmly entrenched in the 21st Century and no flying cars.

    No, I'm pretty sure I consider that to be a feature and not a bug in our technological progress. Movement in three dimensions is a waste of fuel for most tasks, and a humongous safety hazard in the hands of most drivers as well as in the case of engineering failure.

    I don't want flying cars; I want cars that can drive themselves more safely than people can. That's my SF car of the future.

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  13. Re:Wife Acceptance Factor by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    maybe he doesn't know that he probably has a joint credit card with DARPA.

    I do? I'll go check again. This will be great!

    "No, honey, I didn't order the four GE turbofan engines that just showed up on the UPS dock. That wasn't me at all, that was DARPA!"

    On second thought, maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea.. "So, just who is this Darpa chick? How did she get your credit card?" I'd be in a heap of trouble.

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  14. Re:Cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, add violation to the charges against us when the robots rise against us.

  15. Re:Cool. by Starayo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tape a fleshlight to a roomba. :D

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  16. No problem, just cost and fuel economy. by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's no fundamental problem in building a modest-size VTOL craft. Many have been built. The fuel consumption and cost will be high, but for the military, that's OK.

    The big problem back in the 1950s was stability. Now that unstable aircraft are routinely computer-stabilized, that's far less of a problem. It's going to need a jet engine. Piston engines don't have the power to weight ratio needed. That's what runs up the cost. A basic problem with jet engines is that they don't get much cheaper below small bizjet size. That's why general aviation is still piston-powered, despite Williams, etc.

    It's not going to be a pure-thrust VTOL, like the Harrier. That takes so much engine power that it's only feasible for fighters, which are mostly engine anyway. Ducted fans, maybe. Successful ducted-fan aircraft have been built, and with modern stabilization, there are several robotic ducted-fan craft. With better stablization, the fans can be pulled in closer to the body, making for a much more compact craft.

    There's a new Israeli ducted-fan craft, the AirMule, which is currently in early flight test and can hover tethered.

    A big problem with single-engine VTOL aircraft is that they fall like a rock if they lose engine power. Aircraft can glide and helicopters can autorotate, but VTOLs can do neither. Ejection seats are indicated.