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The iPad As In-Car Entertainment System Killer

theodp writes "Cars.com's David Thomas speculates that the iPad could prove to be a serious problem for automakers that charge a ransom for rear entertainment systems. The base iPad, Thomas notes, costs far less than most DVD options offered by automakers. Ford charges $1,995 for a dual-headrest-mounted DVD system in its Flex crossover. In the Acura MDX, its single-screen system, with three wireless headsets and a 9-inch screen, costs $1,900. At $500 a pop, giving two kids their own iPads would cost far less than what the automakers charge for an ICE system. The Cars.com article mentions some of the advantages of ICE, including being weather-tested to work from -5 to 160 degrees F (-20 to 71 C), and being far less prone to breakage."

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  1. hmm by mapkinase · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I thought mounted entertainment systems were killed by portable $100 DVD players already...

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  2. People are less like to smash your car windows... by Assmasher · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...to steal the factory installed DVD system than they are to grab the two iPads in your back seat.

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  3. Why would this be different from navsystems? by TomHandy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Automakers still seem to charge ridiculous amounts for integrated navigation systems - the fact that you can pick up a GPS unit for under $100 doesn't seem to prevent them from charging $500-2000 for nav systems. Somehow I doubt they'll change anything here either. I figure that the thinking is they can charge a huge premium for the benefit of having a system integrated vs. just a separate device.

    1. Re:Why would this be different from navsystems? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The worst thing about the integrated sat-navs is that they are often worse in every way(except the awkward cigarette-lighter-for-power and suction cup mount aspect) than even substantially cheaper discrete units.

      Standalone GPS units live in a brutal darwinian hell-world, where only the strong or the super-cheap survive. Integrated units live sheltered lives; bundled with much more expensive objects. The difference shows.

  4. duh by alen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i figured that out when the iPad was first announced. $2000 for a glorified $300 DVD system vs $500 for a dumbed down computer that can play movies and games and you don't need to take shiny discs with you that scratch easily

    and you can use the ipad outside the car as well. and if you're an IT geek with kids, the App Store has tons of IT management apps to give you console and any kind of remote access to almost any platform from anywhere. just in case you get a call while on vacation that something is wrong

    1. Re:duh by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you're an IT geek you probably aren't buying Apple products.

      No, but if IT geeks work for you, you probably are. :(

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  5. DVD Entertainment System?..sans the DVD. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Though it doesn't have a key element for kids: A DVD drive or a suitable ability to play the same movies they watch at home.

    Anyone who has a kid knows if they like their kids movies then there's got to be a easy way for them to watch it. Most parents aren't going to be ripping their kid's whole collection of DVDs and putting them on an iPad. There needs to be a connection here for this to be even semi-viable for parents. That or iTunes is going to have to try to get some more kid's videos than I believe it has.

    I don't think Jr is really going to be all that excited about all the apps.

    1. Re:DVD Entertainment System?..sans the DVD. by Lectoid · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't know, my 3.5 year old daughter and 1.5 year old son love daddy's "omputer" far more than TV right now. They can draw and color wherever they touch, then send the picture to grandma. Play animal sounds by touching the picture. They can watch an awesome animated Toy Story book as it reads to them (I read to my kids everyday, but try as I might I can't make books animated). She can watch cartoons on netflix anywhere in the house. And that's just in the first few weeks, Who knows what they'll come up with months from now. I went on a trip a few weeks ago and took my iPad and my laptop. My laptop is still in it's bag.

      Now I am like some of you in that your against apple's walled garden, but it's a big damn garden and I've yet to find something I need that's not in here.

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  6. Re:I do not get it... by wiredog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, you get it. That's the purpose.

  7. Re:I do not get it... by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn right!

    Kids these days with their "in car entertainment" and their "iPods" and whatnot; when I was their age all we had to do in the back of the station wagon was fight with our brothers and sisters and make faces at the cars behind us! And we were damn glad to do it!

    Now get off my lawn!

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  8. Re:People are less like to smash your car windows. by nacturation · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...to steal the factory installed DVD system than they are to grab the two iPads in your back seat.

    Maybe one day Apple will develop an iPad which is portable so that it can be removed from the vehicle? One can only hope!

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  9. Re:Sick and tired by jo_ham · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, the stories that appear on slashdot are submitted by slashdot readers, so clearly some people are interested.

    They're obviously news for someone. Might I suggest submitting stories that *are* news for nerds if you think the iPad is not worth it to you.

    Or just turn off the "Apple" section in your preferences, which is much more effective than moaning about it on the actual story, as many people seem to do.

  10. iPad for GPS and Music by Go_Ask_Alex · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As soon as I heard about the iPad 3G, the first thing I though of was velcro-attaching it to the dashboard to use as a GPS unit, with full true Google Maps functionality ("My Maps"). A couple of 3m Command Jumbo Hook "velcro" strips should hold an iPad on the dash just fine, until some company makes a decent suction mount.

  11. Devil's in the details by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We have two vehicles - one with an integrated dual-screen entertainment system (screens fold down from the ceiling), and another vehicle with a $100 DVD player strapped to the back of the seat (actually came with two screens, but the wires going between them got in the way too much so we only use one screen).

    Let me say there is no comparison. Having an integrated system is so much better it's not even funny. There are audio IR blasters integrated into the ceiling which allow 4 people to listen to the movie simultaneously via wireless headphones. If the movie is piped through the car's sound system then it is in full surround through the Bose audio system. My HTC Touch Pro 2 has video out, so I can plug it into the car and play Youtube, encoded videos, etc, right through the integrated system. Wired headphone jacks throughout, DVD controls on the ceiling in addition to standard IR remote.
    And the best part is the screens fold flat into the ceiling and totally disappear. Out of sight, out of mind, can't be stolen, scratched or have crap spilled on them.

    The BEST option, if money was no object, would be to purchase a vehicle with a fully integrated entertainment system, then add an "automotive" PC that can play back through that system as a secondary display (with the primary display being a touch screen in the front).

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  12. Re:I do not get it... by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Informative

    As any parent with a kid will (or should!) tell you, giving them access to things like that is all part of a managed activity schedule, much like access to TV or the computer. You can set aside times when your children can use these things, and for how long, and various other rules. In car entertainment is just another medium where this occurs.

    in the same way that multiple TV sets in homes added more flexibility for families where someone wants to watch channel A while others watch channel B, the in car systems mean not everyone has to listen to the radio, which can be a total blessing if your kids really want to listen to the high school musical soundtrack *again*, or the Bob the Builder greatest hits.

    Like anything involving parenting though, not everyone makes good parents, but allowing kids access to things like this doesn't automatically put people into that category.

  13. Re:I do not get it... by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure. I have a just-turned-2 year old. Legally he cannot be placed in the front seat (even with a proper carrier), so his car seat is in the row of seats behind me, where I cannot even physically touch him. I cannot read to him, or play with him, or do anything but say words out of my mouth. Last week we made a 14 hour round trip (and Mom couldn't go), and I was very, very thankful that he enjoys watching Curious George and Elmo on the integrated entertainment system, because otherwise he would have been miserable - bored out of his mind, screaming his head off, and stressing me out and taking my concentration away from driving.

    We stopped and grabbed a couple DVDs out of a RedBox for a buck a piece, and returned them the next day at our local RedBox when we got home.

    We even have a TV and DVD player at our house too. More than one, believe it or not.

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  14. Re:I do not get it... by Psmylie · · Score: 5, Funny

    No kidding! We made our own entertainment as kids. We played games, and not just the tame ones like "I spy" and the like. We made our OWN games, thus increasing our creativity! We played games like, "What's that smell?" and "Does this hurt?" and "Let's make the veins pop out on the driver's forehead"! And, of course, the ever popular "I'm not touching you!" while waggling a finger mere millimeters away from your siblings body after being instructed not to touch them. This last game was a real challenge, as a pothole or sudden change of direction could jostle you just enough to come into contact with your sibling, and therefore breaking the "rules" and getting you into trouble.

    Ah, good times. Good times.

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  15. Re:And, guess what? by netsharc · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's a cool app on the App Store called "Air Video", it requires a server app on your normal PC (Windows/Mac), and a client App on the phone, the server reads your videos from its disk, converts it on the fly to an iPhone-compatible format, and streams it over WiFi (or 3G if your 3G is good enough) to the phone.

    I suppose for the ultimate in-car entertainment hackery, one could store an SSD-disked PC in the trunk, with WiFi that can connect to the "MyGarage" SSID, as well as offering in-car WiFi (or would that have to go the other way around, the home PC/server connecting to the "MyCar" SSID?), and with a network drive so you can just drag&drop stuff from your home PC "into" your "car". Maybe cron-job too for TV episodes. Add Wake-on-Bluetooth too so you can just click a button to turn on the in-car PC from the comfort of your own desk.

    Would surely save a lot of time compared to doing an offline conversion/USB sync...

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  16. Re:And, guess what? by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Buddy of mine ripped the DVD player out of his and left the screen. he built a XBMC to feed the screen and headphones and carries 250 gigs of movies and TV shows in the car with no cluttler at all.

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  17. Re:plenty of people in the US too by stewbacca · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And plenty of Apple customers don't care one bit about what people think about them, or if it is "cool" or not to be using a MacBook, iPod, iPad, iPhone, or whatever.

  18. Re:And, guess what? by Richy_T · · Score: 4, Funny

    Heck, it can cause an accident just from sliding around and somehow ending between your feet and the brake.

    Is that you, Toyota?