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ACTA Treaty Released

roju writes "The full text of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) was released today. It differs from the earlier leaks in that the negotiating stance of each country has been scrubbed. Preliminary analysis is up at Ars, which warns that 'Several sections of the ACTA draft show that rightsholders can obtain an injunction just by showing that infringement is "imminent," even if it hasn't happened yet.'"

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  1. Prior restraint? by Pharmboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Several sections of the ACTA draft show that rightsholders can obtain an injunction just by showing that infringement is "imminent," even if it hasn't happened yet."

    Isn't that called "prior restraint"?

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    1. Re:Prior restraint? by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 3, Informative

      Imminent infringement clauses are nothing new, and are mostly used in the commercial realm. Say, for example, that A holds a patent on stuff X, B advertises product Y which clearly infringes on that patent. A does not need to wait until B actually starts production and therefore infringes on the patent, but can slap B with an injunction right away. Nothing new here, folks.

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    2. Re:Prior restraint? by DJRumpy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Thanks for that. Some very good info on Wikipedia of all places. In case anyone wants the highlights:

      Judicial view
      Prior restraint is often considered a particularly oppressive form of censorship in Anglo-American jurisprudence because it prevents the restricted material from being heard or distributed at all. Other forms of restrictions on expression (such as suits for libel, slander, defamation, or actions for criminal libel) generally involve punishment only after the offending material has been published. While such punishment might lead to a chilling effect, legal commentators argue that at least such actions do not directly impoverish the marketplace of ideas. Prior restraint, on the other hand, takes an idea or material completely out of the marketplace. Thus it is often considered to be the most extreme form of censorship. The United States Supreme Court expressed this view in Nebraska Press Assn. v. Stuart by noting:
      " The thread running through all these cases is that prior restraints on speech and publication are the most serious and the least tolerable infringement on First Amendment rights. A criminal penalty or a judgment in a defamation case is subject to the whole panoply of protections afforded by deferring the impact of the judgment until all avenues of appellate review have been exhausted. Only after judgment has become final, correct or otherwise, does the law's sanction become fully operative.
      "A prior restraint, by contrast and by definition, has an immediate and irreversible sanction. If it can be said that a threat of criminal or civil sanctions after publication 'chills' speech, prior restraint 'freezes' it at least for the time."
      Also, most of the early struggles for freedom of the press were against forms of prior restraint. Thus prior restraint came to be looked upon with a particular horror, and Anglo-American courts became particularly unwilling to approve it, when they might approve other forms of press restriction.

    3. Re:Prior restraint? by Pharmboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Think about the SCO case: Perhaps SCO should have gotten an injuction to prevent anyone from distributing any version of Linux while the courts figured it all out. After all, they were claiming copyright infringement, exactly the type that would be covered in this treaty. SCO even brought the case to full fruition. This is 100% the type of case that can be subject to being enjoined. Imagine if that happened, and the judge decided that everyone that didn't have an SCO license also needed to take their Linux servers down for infringment.

      The answer is to NOT have prior restraint, and sue for damages later if that is the case.

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    4. Re:Prior restraint? by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      More dangerous is the definition of what is or is not significant copyright infringement, especially when it is linked to "no direct or indirect motivation of financial gain", using P2P would be considered significant due to the number of people the infringing content is made available to and hence a criminal not a civil offence, which is their obvious intent. Now add seizure of assets "any related materials and implements used in the commission of the alleged offence", which of course could not only includes the computer but the house within which the computer was housed.

      Most conspicuous in it's absence was anything related to false charges being placed and, suitable remedial penalties, for infringing free speech rights and, invasion of privacy in false investigations.

      To rub salt into the wound, "Parties shall put in place a special allocation Fund to finance ACTA initiatives on capacity building and technical assistance", they expect the tax payer to pay for it all, including the cost of forcing it on "developing countries" (I would assume those a countries rich in primary resources and exploitable labour).

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  2. provisions on software patents by ciaran_o_riordan · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've read the text and made a summary of how this affects software patents:

    For introductory info, here's other info I've gathered over the past months:

  3. infringement is "imminent," by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So we should lock folks up not because they have committed a crime, but because they might commit a crime in the future.

    Buy stocks in companies that build jails . . .

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  4. Re:Stop being a criminal. by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, if the law starts breaking the law (like privacy laws here), things start getting really messy!

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  5. Re:Stop being a criminal. by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, you don't have to stop being a criminal; what you must stop is to be going to be a criminal.

    If you're not going to be a criminal, you've got nothing to fear.

    This kind of law is the only way to stop going to be criminals. I hope all going to be criminals go to jail as soon as possible.

    What I'm afraid of, now is what can we possibly do against those insidious people who will be going to be criminals in the future.

    Think of the going to be going to be criminals! They're going to be going to harm your child! Probably!

  6. Fair Use? by PolyDwarf · · Score: 4, Informative

    How does this blurb towards the end of the article:

    ACTA doesn't export all of US law in this area, though; the world doesn't get huge principles like fair use (which many countries don't have) and key judicial decisions (like the Sony Betamax case which found that a device with "substantial non-infringing uses" could be sold so long as the manufacturer was not inducing infringement). Countries could adopt these, but they aren't requirements.

    square with this blurb towards the beginning of the article:

    ACTA would ban "the unauthorized circumvention of an effective technological measure." It also bans circumvention devices, even those with a "limited commercially significant purpose." Countries can set limits to the ban, but only insofar as they do not "impair the adequacy of legal protection of those measures." This is ambiguous, but allowing circumvention in cases where the final use is fair would appear to be outlawed.

    To me, the second blurb is pretty much saying "kiss your fair use goodbye, US Citizens"

  7. Re:Too much hysteria from the peanut gallery. by hibiki_r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wouldn't call it a review of the draft: It doesn't really say all that much about it. Most of the text is spent insulting those that disagree with the author's views.

    Who knows, he might be right, but the text doesn't really resemble a good review.

  8. this is a declaration of war by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    on your rights, on your freedoms, and on the richness of your culture

    not by artists, but by an entrenched oligopoly of a dying distribution network (replaced by the internet)

    the proper response to this declaration of war is not via legal means. all legal means have been corrupted bought and sold by entrenched corporate interests

    the proper response is complete subversion of all media on the internet

    we can't beat them in the legal arena. not because our legal arguments are inferior. indeed, they are superior. but we can't compete on the same playing field in terms of financial influence over our legislative bodies

    so we will instead starve these assholes to death by destroying all of their sources of income: complete ubiquity of their media on the internet, free and higher quality (no DRM) than their locked up bullshit that only punishes the common man (it certainly doesn't punish pirates)

    let the war being: tens of millions of poor, technological sophisticated, and media hungry teenagers versus a couple thousand lawyers

    it's going to be a rout and we're going to win this war, by destroying these corporate interest that impoverish our culture and imperil our rights and freedoms by draining their finances

    it is no longer good enough to merely ignore this bullshit. it is incumbent upon anyone with a sense of morality to outright destroy media corporations for the crimes they are inflicting on our cultures

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  9. I think the bigest problem with anticircumvention by mark-t · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... is the notion that unless the publisher of a work explicitly sanctions a particular copying method, in particular for something like private use, then it is essentially illegal to do (bear in mind that "effective technological measure" does not require that the copy protection mechanism literally *BE* effective at preventing copies from being made, it only has to have been some measure put there by the copyright holder for the purposes of preventing copies, whether or not is is still otherwise easy or convenient to do).

    Now while some supporters of the notion might not see any particular reason for a person to need to circumvent copy protection for their own private use, when a publisher might choose to actively support it anyways, it actually ends up creating a situation where, for example, the publisher might be perfectly okay with you copying that movie to your iPad (presumably for your own private use), but when new technology comes out in a few years that doesn't happen to be all that compatible with the iPad, unless the company has had the resources to invest in keeping up with changes in technology for the purposes of utilizing their older material, a person is left being locked into only dealing with Apple stuff -- they cannot legally transfer their already purchased material to any entirely new device of a similar purpose that they might happen to acquire over time. In addition to almost openly serving the agenda of big businesses while strangle-holding the little guy, it creates a situation that, however inadvertent, ends up directing what sort of technologies can be legally developed in the future. It is my contention that ANY law that does this sort of thing is, regardless of how it might be intended to be used, a bad law, and should be stricken or completely redrafted so that this situation does not ever arise. At the very least, devices themselves that can circumvent copy protection without requiring sanctioning of the copyright holder should not be illegal. At most all that should be illegal is the act of a person that uses such a device to infringe on copyright (but here's the funny thing, with that provision, then they are already breaking a law, so outlawing circumvention serves no real purpose).

  10. Re:Not a big change by Pharmboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Prior restraint is something that is looked down upon in our judicial system, something that should only be used in the most extreme cases, and with damn good cause and serious consequences without the restraint. This treaty gives another point of authority for it, and justifies it under more moderate situations. MPAA/RIAA's life or liberty is not being threatened when someone infringes (so sue them), but when someone is restrained in this fashion, all too often their liberty is.

    In the SCO case (and other potential future cases), prior restraint would have caused havok and great financial burden on many, many people, and in the end, the company/person making the claim LOST the case. Prior restraint can (and will) be used, not to prevent loss, but simply to put a chilling effect on free speech and fair use.

    You are correct, we can already use prior restraint in the US where it is appropriate, and it is already abused enough as it is. The countries that don't, that is their decision. Make it easier to use it is NOT "a good thing", particularly for free speech.

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  11. Footnote 47 and "fair use" by yuna49 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I searched the entire document for "fair use" and came up with only one entry, footnote 47:

    "[For greater certainty, the Parties understand that third party liability means liability for any person who authorizes for a direct financial benefit, induces through or by conduct directed to promoting infringement, or knowingly and materially aids any act of copyright or related rights infringement by another. Further, the Parties also understand that the application of third party liability may include consideration of exceptions or limitations to exclusive rights that are confined to certain special cases that do not conflict with a normal exploitation of the work, performance or phonogram, and do not unreasonably prejudice the legitimate interests of the right holder, including fair use, fair dealing, or their equivalents.] At least one delegation opposes this footnote."

    I wonder which delegation(s) that is (are)? If footnote 47, or some equivalent, does not appear in the final version, would we have a conflict between ACTA and 17 USC?