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Brain Training Games Don't Train Your Brain

Stoobalou writes with this excerpt from Thinq.co.uk: "A new study has shown that brain training games do little to exercise the grey matter. Millions of people who have been prodding away at their Nintendo DS portable consoles, smug in the knowledge that they are giving their brains a proper work-out, might have to rethink how they are going to stop the contents of their skulls turning into mush."

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  1. Very well then by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

    No more brain training. It's back to killing it slowly with beer for me.

    1. Re:Very well then by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 4, Funny

      With enough beer that's swimming training.

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    2. Re:Very well then by blahplusplus · · Score: 5, Informative

      Regular exercise is still the best defense against an aging brain.

  2. Hmmm. I question this study. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's one thing to ask whether these tests make you "smarter". But even the story says they improve speeds in taking the brain tests. I also notice that the control group didn't just sit there doing nothing, they used the Internet, which may have "exercised the brain" in some fashion, assuming they weren't reading /.

    Also, there does seem to be evidence that mental activity can ward off Alzheimer's and "Research has also found that cognitive leisure activities reduce the risk of cognitive decline."

    Maybe it doesn't serve a practical purpose for some people, but it seems among the elderly at least there may be some benefit (?)

  3. Ashes to ashes, mush to mush by tomcode · · Score: 3, Funny

    You can't stop your brain from slowly turning to mush. You may as well enjoy the ride.

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    1. Re:Ashes to ashes, mush to mush by zero_out · · Score: 5, Interesting

      On average, PhD.s have much healthier brains than most people, even in their 90s or older. They have less incidence of dementia, alzheimers(sp?), and other forms of mental illness. Studies have shown that taking courses at community college, or learning a new language, can help sustain one's mental health in retirement.

    2. Re:Ashes to ashes, mush to mush by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Learning a new language is a good one. it forces you to generate new cells. Learning a middle eastern language when you are a westerner will really speed it up as it is so radically different.

      But that's not only for spoken language. learning a new programming language will also do the same thing.

      Basically, find a subject and start studying.

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    3. Re:Ashes to ashes, mush to mush by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      On average, PhD.s have much healthier brains than most people, even in their 90s or older.

      Well, that settles it. I'm off to buy my PhD from the University of Phoenix. I can't wait until I can hang my diploma on the wall and bask in it's brain-preserving rays. ;)

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    4. Re:Ashes to ashes, mush to mush by JoshuaZ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On average, PhD.s have much healthier brains than most people, even in their 90s or older. They have less incidence of dementia, alzheimers(sp?), and other forms of mental illness. Studies have shown that taking courses at community college, or learning a new language, can help sustain one's mental health in retirement.

      There's a correlation v. causation issue there. It isn't clear that the PhD.s have healthier brains because they are using them more or if they have healthier brains in a way that also allows them to get PhD.s

  4. How useless... (The article, that is) by garg0yle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article says, in essence, that the study found that using Brain Academy type software for six weeks did not improve cognitive function. However, nowhere does the study prove, as the article alleges, that use of such software could not slow the rate of cognitive decay. These are two entirely different things - the second one would require a long-term study tracking both users and non-users over, say, 20 or 30 years.

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  5. Won't turn you into a genius but probably helps by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone that thinks you'll go from a tard to a genius will be disappointed. However, practising anything improves you ability at that particular thing. Take normal video games and put a newbie in front of Contra and then stick in someone who has been playing it for years. There will be a huge difference. Some people see bigger gains than others. For instance if I continue playing Mega man games I do get better but I'll never master them. That and I don't think we should complain too much about something that helps people take interest in things like math over wasting their morning reading the Daily Mail, Sun or something equally brain damaging.

    1. Re:Won't turn you into a genius but probably helps by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Funny

      Take someone who has been playing Contra for years, and stick them in front of Quake 3, and see how well developed their "gaming skills" really are, as opposed to their "Contra skills".

      Yeah, up up, down down, left right, left right, B A doesn't work in Quake 3. So much for memorization.

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  6. Re:Hmmm. I question this study. by MBCook · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What really caught me was they said that doing the training sped up your ability to do things you trained on (duh). NPR gave the example of a baggage scanner where the number of bags going in and out changes, you you have to keep track of the number of bags in the machine at any given moment.

    So that may not be useful to your everyday life, and games that are similar aren't supposed to benefit. But what about the games you do in real life? As I remember, the first two Brain Training games Nintendo put out had many real world things like simple math problems (6 + 3, 7 * 5), reading analog clocks, and making change. These are all things people do in real life. Maybe doing tons of elementary math problems won't make you smarter, but it will make you faster and more confident when you have to do simple math, and that's a plus.

    Count the number of spinning yellow number 7s in this jumble may not be that applicable to real life, but some are.

    Nintendo never advertised the games would make you smarter. They framed it as "keeping your brain fit", like you keep your muscles fit by using them. There have been tons of copy-cats since Brain Training sold so well, and it wouldn't surprise me they claimed (or hinted) they would make you smarter. But doing simple math problems can't make you smarter, only better at simple math problems.

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  7. Sweet Game! by Noxzoul · · Score: 4, Funny

    "some worthless game where large-breasted ladies in not much clothing chop up mutant dinosaurs with giant chain saws" I want this game.

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  8. And now for an irreverent follow-up by Xaedalus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At the risk of being modded down (and the certain doom of being mocked), I feel compelled to follow up on this and feed the troll. I went the UoP route, and found out that many (perhaps most) of their online degree programs were little more than diploma mills at the time. And at that point I entered a rather profound depression because I realized I'd been a fool and had probably wasted tens of thousands of dollars (yes, smart people do get suckered too).

    However, it wasn't until later that I discovered that I might have actually lucked out. I got my Masters in Education - Curriculum & Instruction, which actually happens to be a very strong program in its own right, because of the sheer number of professional educators who take the UoP's Education grad-level courses, and teach them. All but two of my professors were educators, education professionals, or senior education management (the two that weren't - well, I considered asking for their photos to print out on my toilet paper so I could wipe my ass with their face - they were THAT bad). Not only that, but I learned a hell of a lot about education - the philosophy, the psychology, the pedagogy, and about how school districts operate when it comes to curriculum and teaching. And I was able to take all that information and apply it to my corporate world quite successfully. Which shocked the hell out of me because I initially thought my degree was worthless.

    If I must be flamed for saying I have a MAED from University of Phoenix, then flame me. I was taken in, as were many other people. But, surprisingly, I emerged with an actual graduate-level education in Education that was worth the hassle (which impressed my wife, who's a teacher herself), and has proved itself. I don't know now if UoP cleaned up their act. I suspect they have as they haven't lost their accreditation, the DoL hasn't found any new complaints, and now everyone and their uncle is getting in on the online education program.

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