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NASA Solar Satellite's First Sun Images

coondoggie writes "NASA today showed off the amazing first pictures of the Sun taken from its 6,800lb Solar Dynamics Observatory flying at an orbit 22,300 miles above Earth. The first images show a variety of activity NASA says provide never-before-seen detail of material streaming outward and away from sunspots. Others show extreme close-ups of activity on the sun's surface. The spacecraft also has made the first high-resolution measurements of solar flares in a broad range of extreme ultraviolet wavelengths."

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  1. Rather Large Image for the Article by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    I believe NetworkWorld may have been less than prudent in failing to put a thumbnail in place of scaling a 4,096 x 4,096 image totaling 8.6 MB down to 300 x 400. Although I guess since they are sourcing it from nasa.gov this slashdotting is going to come at the taxpayer's expense? :-)

    I didn't see a link in the article, but here's the original NASA press release.

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  2. Careful! by martas · · Score: 5, Funny

    if you look at the article directly, you'll burn out your retinas!

    1. Re:Careful! by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do not look at article with remaining eye.

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    2. Re:Careful! by mybecq · · Score: 3, Funny

      if you look at the article directly, you'll burn out your retinas!

      I don't think any /. readers will be affected.

  3. Predict the weather? by Meshach · · Score: 3, Insightful
    FTA:

    SDO will provide critical data that will improve the ability to predict these space weather events.

    I do not know what everyone else thinks but I think that sounds pretty exciting. I can see it having a huge impact on airline and space travel.

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    1. Re:Predict the weather? by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "space weather" is a term used to refer to solar output fluctuation so the layman can understand it. It has more to do with radio and electronic systems on earth and in space than it does to earth-bound weather.

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    2. Re:Predict the weather? by teridon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Depends on the flight path. Flights that go to high latitudes (great cirle routes over the north pole) sometimes lose communications due to (currently unpredicted) solar events. They are not allowed to fly without communications, so they have to divert to more southerly routes to restore comm. Of course this takes more time and fuel -- perhaps even forcing a landing at a closer airport.

      Accurate predictions of solar events would allow the airline industry to plan better.

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  4. Video by shadowbearer · · Score: 3, Informative

      There's some absolutely awesome video from SDO here

      Wow.

    SB

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    1. Re:Video by shadowbearer · · Score: 5, Informative

        Better article

        This is incredible stuff. The CNN author called it "Hubble for the sun" and that's exactly what it is.

      SB

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  5. Holy Amounts of data! by adosch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd love to see the infrastructure design document from whomever is working at Solar Dynamics Observatory on what they are using for an online disk and long-term storage solution. If they are doing MOC, ingest and data processing/control all in one central location with was mentioned ITFA:

    Specifically, NASA says the SDO will beam back 1.5 terabytes of data every day, 24 hours a day, seven days a week

    Annually, at it's rawest data form, they house ~548TB (0.5 petabytes)!! I work for a NASA funded land processing project, and with our MODIS ingest from GSFC and ASTER pan ingest from Japan, in 11 years, we've accumulated close to 1.5PB of data. Of course, this is trimmed down and anything we need to generate other data product levels is starting to get housed long-term, but that's a HELL of a long of volume to consume and do fantastic projects with. Hurray for science once again. At least this NASA function still is getting money, eh?

    1. Re:Holy Amounts of data! by teridon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sorry, you can't see the design documents! :-P

      Flight operations for the spacecraft is at GSFC, while instrument operations can be done at both GSFC and at the science operations centers.

      Science data is stored temporarily ( up to 30 days) at the dedicated ground stations at White Sands. The data is transferred in close to real-time (OC-3 lines for HMI/AIA, DS-3 for EVE) from there to each of the science instrument data centers (LASP for EVE, and JSOC at Stanford for HMI and AIA).

      So, in this case it is the science teams (not NASA) that must store and process massive amounts of data. Perhaps obviously, none of the science data processing is done at GSFC (only engineering data).

      Actually, you can find some documents online for HMI/AIA by searching Google for "jsoc sdp".

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  6. 6800 lbs? by navyjeff · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm glad they told us the weight of the satellite. That sounds like really important information. There's no way we could know if the observatory was fit for science if we didn't know it weighed more than three Volkswagens.

  7. Whoa. But... by Lord+Grey · · Score: 4, Funny

    Specifically, NASA says the SDO will beam back 1.5 terabytes of data every day, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. That's almost 50 times more science data than any other mission in NASA history. It's like downloading 500,000 iTunes a day, NASA stated.

    Apparently iTunes has morphed into a unit of scale. What is that in Library of Congresses?

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  8. Torrent Please by Statecraftsman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I downloaded the 40mb(h264 mov) file which was all of 31 seconds. What would be super awesome though would be a torrent of a longer period of time...like an hour at least. Pretty please NASA? If the Norweigans can do it with a train ride surely we can do it for a great solar instrument like this.

    1. Re:Torrent Please by teridon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, this is my first attempt at a torrent; hope this works

      http://www.seedpeer.com/details/3024437/SDO.html

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    2. Re:Torrent Please by oneiros27 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Even if someone made it, you have to go through hoops to be allowed to use peer-to-peer anything at NASA.

      I know there's a few multi-GB earth science data sets being distributed using torrents, but when I brought up peer-to-peer anything 2 years ago, before I was working on the data distribution system for SDO, I kept getting push back -- the files are too small to be efficient (~16MB each image); there's too many files to track (with all of the processed forms of the data, we'll be tracking over 400k files per day; more if they recalibrate) ... I finally gave up.

      Maybe we'll get approval for education & public outreach ... we'll likely have to wait to see how hard people hit the servers, and might be able to use the bandwidth savings as justification. (but it'll still take months before we'd be allowed to do it)

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  9. Nerds by mister_playboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Normal guy: How much do you think that chick weighs?
    Slashdot guy: How much do you think that satellite weighs?

    Sounds about right.

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    1. Re:Nerds by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, real nerds would argue about the mass of the chick, right in front of her...

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  10. Aren't we at a solar minimum? by gront · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Not sure of the extra-specialness of a solar observatory at the time of a record setting solar minimum.

    "During 2008-2009 NASA scientists noted that the Sun is undergoing a "deep solar minimum," stating: "There were no sunspots observed on 266 of [2008's] 366 days (73%). Prompted by these numbers, some observers suggested that the solar cycle had hit bottom in 2008. Sunspot counts for 2009 have dropped even lower. As of September 14, there were no sunspots on 206 of the year's 257 days (80%). It adds up to one inescapable conclusion: "We're experiencing a very deep solar minimum," says solar physicist Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "This is the quietest sun we've seen in almost a century," agrees sunspot expert David Hathaway of the National Space Science and Technology Center NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center.

    from wikipedia quoting legitimate sources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_minimum

    I'm all for space exploration, but the TFA should at least mention the solar minimum. And isn't http://solarstormwatch.com/ more interestin' anyway?

  11. Cut to the chase! Hit first base! by rigorrogue · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Girls(I hope)! Guys!

    These videos are awesome. For once, don't bother with the article, just feast your eyes on extraordinary false-color footage of the source* of our life:

    http://www.nasa.gov/mov/445831main_Alan-1-FirstSunImageandFootageH264.mov

    http://www.nasa.gov/mov/445834main_Alan-4-Larger-activeRegion-H264.mov

    Others are available here:

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sdo/news/briefing-materials-20100421.html

    These are some of the most beautiful works of art I've ever seen, and I studied Fine Art for over a decade. Ok, I've studied Physics for longer, but still!

    What particularly struck me was the very "organic" looking cell structure (wikipedia suggests they're http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9nard_cells but I'm not a solar physicist, and I suspect it's just a _little_ bit more complicated than that, what with the vast EM energies at work and such). Call me a nerd, but my chest heaved as though I were looking into the eyes of a beautiful girl** ***.

    * Yada yada

    ** Ok, so I've had a couple of large glasses of wine, and "life looks rosier through the bottom of a wine glass". But then, "in vino veritas". And anyway, it was white wine.

    *** All girls are beautiful.

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    1. Re:Cut to the chase! Hit first base! by shadowbearer · · Score: 2, Informative

        What particularly struck me was the very "organic" looking cell structure

        There's not much information Granule (solar physics) but it will give you a start on learning more.

        (Solar astronomy is one of my hobbies, so I knew what to search for. Enjoy!)

      SB

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    2. Re:Cut to the chase! Hit first base! by shadowbearer · · Score: 4, Insightful

        My pleasure!

        Something else to think about - you spoke of energy levels - just one of those granules is about the size of the Earth*, and the average temperature at the surface of the sun is around 6000 Kelvin. If the earth was magically transported there, everything on the surface would evaporate instantly, and the oceans would boil completely away in a matter of minutes. The rest of the planet might last a few days, at the most.

          We humans, with our fusion weapons, think we have "harnessed the fury of the stars" while in reality we've barely touched upon the energy levels that are common everywhere - and our sun is just a "middle class" star in terms of energy levels. There are phenomenon out there that make our sun look like a spark in a nuclear explosion...

        The universe is both beautiful, and terrible beyond imagination.

        Welcome to astronomy :) One of the greatest pleasures I find is in expanding minds...

        * roughly; the sun is about a million miles in diameter, and granule size varies. It's a close enough approximation, however.

      SB

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  12. Re:Pretty pictures by v1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    and for those of you that have, I hear they're going to release it in braille too.

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  13. Re:Whoa. But... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wait a minute... 1.5TB/d = 500,000 iTunes/d??
    This would mean that iTunes has only 3MB? The size of a song...
    OMG, those complete retard mean MP3s!!
    I bet they refer to MP3 players as “iPods”...
    This is even dumber than not knowing the difference between $0.02 and 0.02 cent!

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  14. Link to SDO? by oneiros27 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Almost all of the links on that article refer back to crap at network world -- I'm still trying to figure out what this link is at the bottom, that claims to be "Solar Dynamics Observatory", but seems to just be a 404 to : sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/site/icon.ico

    (There's no 'images' directory on that server at the top level)

    I'd just appreciate it if someone were going to link to our servers that they didn't link to crap.

    If you want movies, see one of :

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  15. The detail is amazing by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you look closely, you can see the flag that Louis Armstrong planted on the surface.

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  16. Airlines == Polar flights by oneiros27 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The issue is that when you're flying long distances, you have the choice of either flying over the poles, or refueling mid-way. If there's a solar storm going on, everyone's exposed to a fair amount of radiation in a polar flight, and it might affect some of their instruments. Most airlines will take the refueling stop if there's a storm.

    The radiation likely won't be enough to affect the average passenger, but it's the pilots who get to decide, and it's the flight crews that are exposed to radiation over and over again on these trips. ... but it'll be more important when we move to GPS for air traffic control -- GPS doesn't work when there's too much noise in that frequency band. This would mean that the FAA would have to fall back to radar, and all of the benefits they're claiming for their new system would be wiped out. (ie, need to leave more space around planes, so you can't pack the airspace as well)

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  17. Obama politics by formfeed · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's just typical for Obama's disastrous NASA politics:
    Take remote pictures of it from an unmanned observatory.

    -Under George W. we would have landed there!

  18. Re:Network World? by oneiros27 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's your basic blog spam -- slashdot user 'coondoggie' submits an article written by 'Michael Cooney'.

    Look at the rest of his submissions -- all just links back to Network World. Maybe he's trying to make up for the loss of Roland. (Although, Roland got better in his submissions)

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  19. A Link to Several Movies by catchblue22 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I found that this link provides access to several high quality movies that downloaded quite quickly. They are very interesting to watch.

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