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Economy Tanked While Government Surfed Porn

unixan writes "In a report by the SEC Inspector General that smacks of fiddling while Rome burns, 33 recent ethics investigations all showed that the government employees responsible for keeping an eye on the economy were instead obsessed with surfing porn — while the economy was tipping over. One cited example: 'A senior attorney at the SEC's Washington headquarters spent up to eight hours a day looking at and downloading pornography. When he ran out of hard drive space, he burned the files to CDs or DVDs, which he kept in boxes around his office.'"

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  1. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by Jeng · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any non-work internet activity is risking ones job.

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  2. Re:And we... by coolsnowmen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some of us do both. /. and porn that is.

  3. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by TheMidnight · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wow, talk about bureaucracy. There's no way I would have gotten away with downloading that much on a work connection, even if it was Linux ISOs or legal, harmless data. How did these guys get away with it for so long? Let's say this guy had a 500 GB hard drive...then stacks of DVDs at 4.7 GB each...that's a lot of smut a day. My network admins would have been knocking on my office door. Once they found out what it was, I'd never find a job again.

    Something tells me the network admins for that government department must have been doing the same thing, or were incompetent, or playing WoW (or maybe some hellish combination).

  4. Not news by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As of 2007, the SEC employed 3798 people. They found 33 cases of apparently habitual porn surfing (I get the impression a single visit didn't count, but visiting a few times a week would get noticed). Is it actually news that ~1% of *any* organization consisting primarily of office workers with internet connections would surf for porn? Finding 1% of any given population with no damn common sense or self control is trivial. I'm not sure how it's any different because the SEC numbers are known.

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    1. Re:Not news by gad_zuki! · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah, this is a manufactured controversy issue by the GOP. They are attacking the SEC because its attacking Goldman Sachs and trying to regulate the industry that almost took the economy down. Republicans have no shame.

      http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hOvd2ZHpLgAEKjwU87acksA24EDQD9F8SEUO0

    2. Re:Not news by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I know! How dare he try to regulate the people who tried to influence him! Doesn't he know a politician's role is to be bought and stay bought?

  5. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by jbeach · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yep - watching people screwing, while the people they are supposed to be watching are screwing the public. Which makes the SEC like the glory hole in Wall Street.

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  6. "Porn" isn't the problem, it's just goofing off. by BlueKitties · · Score: 5, Interesting

    These poor bastards are going to be burned at the afraid-of-sexuality stake, instead of the do-your-damn-job-instead-of-goofing-off stake. They deserve to be fired like any other idiot who goofs off, but I'm sure they're going to be charged with sex crimes of some sort.

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  7. So, had they NOT been surfing for porn... by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would the economy be OK now? Just asking.....

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  8. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by Jeng · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure IT was well aware of the situation by the time the hard drive was full.

    Who watches the watchers? Ceiling cat does.

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  9. Yet none were fired by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As far as anyone can tell, not one of these people were fired for both not doing their job and for using work equipment in a HIGHLY non-work related manner.

    Then again, we have the same thing around here. We know for a fact and have documented at least two people repeatedly, for over half an hour each day for months on end, trying to access porn and porn-related sites. Yet, like the SEC, none have been canned.

    To use a tired comment, there used to be a time when one could work hard, get recognized and advance ones career through such work. No longer. Apparently failure is the new success.

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  10. The story submission is worded by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    like a troll.

    A) DO you think people watch the economy by looking out a window? no. It's worded like the think the economy is in a box and people are just watching in case it finds a way out.

    B) They have no way of knowing what's going on in every board room in the financial industry

    c) IT's a large organization, of course some people where surfing porn. People are people.

    D) None of this excuse what they did. I'm only pointing out that just because it's "the government" doesn't mean the people running it aren't people.

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  11. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by AtomicOrange · · Score: 5, Funny

    Kind of like reading /. at work?

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  12. Sheesh. by Spazntwich · · Score: 4, Funny

    If this is that big a deal, I hope nobody finds out I've actually been having sex while the economy tanks.

    Especially my wife.

  13. Think before you condemn by Shrike82 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just a quick reminder to anyone thinking of condeming these people here on Slashdot - are you at work right now, reading Slashdot? Is that what you're paid for? The article reeks of sensationalism just because these people happened to be viewing porn instead of reading news, flicking through a book, watching YouTube, or a thousand and one other things that people do every day at work instead of actually working.

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  14. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm glad I don't work where you do.

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  15. so what you're saying ... by sl0ppy · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... is that they wanted to diddle while rome burned?

  16. You laugh, but we'll see who's laughing when... by Delusion_ · · Score: 4, Funny

    the SEC is the host of our Strategic Porn Reserves. Then you'll thank that attorney's forward-thinking approach to preserving a domestic supply to reduce our vulnerability to the whims of foreign porn suppliers.

  17. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by wizardforce · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The SEC's job was to go after fraud and general theft; they didn't do their job. The fact that a lot of them were caught surfing for pron isn't the point; the point is that they were not doing their jobs and the consequences were for the most part, felt by other people.

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  18. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unless you consider and can justify reading /. as part of your job (keeping abreast on technology news)...

  19. Fixed that for ya.... by StickyWidget · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Economy Tanked while the Government Wanked."

    ~Sticky
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  20. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by senorbum · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You'd be surprised at what people get away with in corporations. This really isn't that surprising. People are just like 'ZOMG its gov't failure' instead of 'ZOMG it people failure'. I bet many large companies would have similar statistics (sadly).

  21. Anti economic reform FUD by spun · · Score: 5, Informative

    FTFA:

    The number of cases jumped from two in 2007 to 16 in 2008. The cracks in the financial system emerged in mid-2007 and spread into full-blown panic by the fall of 2008.

    Anyone want to bet that certain right-wing news outlets are furiously trying to figure out a way to blame this on President Obama?

    A certain right wing news outlet? How about Slashdot? Where in the summary does it mention that this happened under Bush? Nowhere, it says 'recent.' This is meant to spread FUD about the SEC, in order to turn people against the idea of financial reform and regulation. "Why, if these fools are constantly surfing porn, how can we trust them to regulate Wall Street?" But they aren't anymore: the fellow appointed by this administration cracked down and stopped it.

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    1. Re:Anti economic reform FUD by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Interesting

      He didn't have to personally hire them but whatever happened to "the buck stops here" mentality. Is Bush personally responsible? No, but it happened under his administration and as head of the administration he has take that responsibility. Katrina wasn't Bush's fault personally but the guy he let run FEMA certainly screwed up majorly. Over the last 2 administrations (including Clinton), businesses have persuaded the government to give them more free reign and less oversight. I believe that has led us into the situation that exists now.

      After the Great Depression a number of regulations were put into place to prevent this kinda of meltdown like banks could only be banks and not investment firms. One of the reasons that some banks failed in the 1929 crash was that they were lending and speculating against the Stock Market instead of being a repository of their customer's money. Under Clinton, this restriction was lifted (Glass-Steagall).

      In the 90s and 00s, the economy was great. Alan Greenspan and the free market could do no wrong. The free markets would police themselves. As early as 1993, a lone regulator named Brooksley Born warned that secretive, unregulated derivatives would bring down the market. She was the head an obscure agency named the Commodity Futures Trading Commission which was in charge of overseeing derivatives. For her, it wasn't so much that these derivatives were unregulated but they that fought all attempts at any disclosure. That piqued her curiosity.

      But her ideas about regulation clashed with Greenspan, former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, and former Assistant Treasury Secretary Larry Summers. She was a Washington outsider and she was a female in a world dominated by men. Together with their banking allies, they worked to remove any power her agency had by having Congress strip her tiny agency of its function.

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  22. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I guarantee you that any competant IT department would not only be fully aware of what was going on, but also smart enough not to stir a pot that big.

    If I came in tomorrow and the entire sales team was found to be mass downloading pron, what could we do? Get the entire team fired? Who is going to pick up the slack from that? Can't just replace people just like that. We could filter their content, but how long before that becomes a headache when they can't reach legit sites. We can throttle them but then there are complaints that they can't get any work done while they are chewing through bandwidth on a bit-torrent.

    IT's job is to make sure that everyone is up and running. Its the managers job to make sure that people are doing their work. When people start treating IT like a police force, then something is seriously wrong, and you need to look at the power structure and layout of your company. We can be eyes and ears, we can inform managers, but its definately NOT our job to go and get people fired.

  23. Bush Administration by Torodung · · Score: 4, Funny

    Boy, they sure took the Bush agenda seriously.

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  24. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by silverglade00 · · Score: 5, Funny

    keeping abreast on technology news

    I see what you did there...

  25. Distraction by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sheila Bair hasn't enforced the (non-discretionary) Prompt Corrective Action law on any of the largest TBTF banks.

    Henry Paulson lobbied for the repeal of the last vestiges of Glass-Steagall while he worked for Goldman Sachs and then committed extortion by threatening Congress with martial law unless they handed over $700 billion to a group of unapprehended felons.

    The FBI warned about about an epidemic of mortgage fraud back in 2004 yet the last two administrations have not indicted a single major player in the industry.

    But by all means, ignore them and pay attention to the small fry browsing porn.

  26. Re:I'll bite - here's your explanation by initdeep · · Score: 5, Funny

    DEATH TO THE INFIDEL!!!!

  27. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by 1729 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Kind of like reading /. at work?

    I work for a government agency, and we're allowed to use the internet for non-work purposes. In fact, Slashdot was specifically mentioned as an acceptable site to visit on our government-owned computers. The general guidelines are:

    -Don't visit porn sites (an automatic firing offense, unless it was truly inadvertent)
    -Don't do anything for personal profit (checking an eBay auction is okay, running an eBay-based business isn't)
    -Don't behave unprofessionally
    -Don't use excessive bandwidth
    -Don't spend too much time online for non-work reasons (i.e. get your work done)

  28. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by jafiwam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I personally warned the rest of the company about the McAfee problem earlier this week because I was goofing off on Slashdot.

    Saved countless hours of problems.

    Besides, the IT department just wants the good porn to go into the shared collection and for the job to be done. If I am waiting for a long-ass process to happen and would otherwise be left picking my nose or jabbering at someone who is trying to work, a bit of down time with a browser is not a big deal.

  29. It's all about timing by dhaines · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interesting that this years-old story rears up now, when the SEC is suing Goldman and the administration is pushing financial industry reform.

    Sounds like there certainly was (is?) a porn problem at SEC. Convenient that is was such a non-story, until needed.

  30. Re:Look Around You, Look Around You, Look Around Y by Kaboom13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What a surprisingly reasonable policy.

  31. Re:Just in case it wasn't crystal clear by spun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wrong. Good government helps people. It's why we have government. It protects the weak from the strong. If we have bad government, that is not the fault of government, but of We, The People.

    As for your ludicrously misinformed points:

    Obama has agreed to pull out by 2011. The military says that his plan to pull 45,000 troops out by August is on track.

    As for Bagram, I bet you used to use "When will we close Guantanamo?" until we, uh, closed it. Sure, this is a problem, but Obama's record is good in this regard: he will not allow the US to torture prisoners.

    The Fed is NOT still handing out free money to Banks. That was Bush's idea, remember? Obama continued it for a while, but now that his policies have gotten the economy into recovery mode, not only is he not handing out more cash, not only did he make AIG execs give back their bonuses, his SEC is suing the bastards.

    Spending isn't skyrocketing. I don't know where you even get that. Remember, this is a depression we are in. As FDR proved, we need to spend to get out of it. But skyrocketing? LOL. That's what Republicans do. Look at the surplus over the years, Dems build up a surplus and cut spending, Republicans borrow and spend more, on more ridiculous things. At least Dems spend the money on useful things.

    So, the premise that 'they are all the same' is totally false. I don't like Obama because he is a centrist and not the socialist some people claim he is. I wish! But no, he's another Bill Clinton.

    Politicians on both sides may have faults. The Dems aren't perfect. But the Republicans are orders of magnitude more evil, selfish, and dishonest.

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