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Best Alternatives To the Big Name Social Media?

rueger writes "Over a couple of years I have actually found Facebook pretty useful and/or entertaining. It has certainly allowed me to stay connected with a lot of people with whom I otherwise would have lost track, and for all its weaknesses it was handy for sharing links and such. This week, though, the privacy escapades have pushed me (and a lot of other people) over the edge. If Twitter's 140 characters aren't enough, LinkedIn is too business-oriented, MySpace too ugly, and Buzz — does anyone even use Buzz? What social media options are out there for all of those non-uber-techy folks?"

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  1. Twitter's 140 Characters by Renegade+Lisp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To me, the 140-character limit of Twitter is more than offset by the conciseness of the information it thusly transports. I find it actually very stimulating to be limited to 140 characters. Forces you to think a little longer before you post.

    As Goethe once said: Sorry for writing this long letter, I didn't have time for a shorter one.

    But in any case, you can combine Twitter with a Blog and use that if you really think you need to say something longer than 140 characters, then post the link on Twitter. Posterous is an excellent site for that.

    And to those who still think that Twitter is the place where people tell you they're having a sandwich -- you are obviously following the wrong people. It is the most efficient information engine I have ever seen -- and many other things beyond that.

    1. Re:Twitter's 140 Characters by rwa2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ob PA: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/4/23/

      It's all I ever think about every time twitter is covered by the popular media or NPR or whatever. And it unnerves me tremendously that I can't twack the anchor with a wet trout wrapped in a printout of that comic.

    2. Re:Twitter's 140 Characters by houghi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      To me telling strangers or vague people everything all the time is giving up my privacy. If people are interested, they can ask me and perhaps I answer, but I just do not see the point to give out information all the time for no apparent reason.

      Perhaps there are people who had a diary when they where young. It was to write to yourself, not so much to show others. And then suddenly you are older, moved a few times and re-read them. It is then that you notice how uninteresting it all is.

      So if you want have people get in contact with you, set up a web page and let them google you like you google them. And if they only look on Facebook, then they are interested in adding a friend to get as many as possible, not about finding you.

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      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    3. Re:Twitter's 140 Characters by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I sure hope he's not talking about sending physical letters. I've tried it once and the lag was incredibly high.

    4. Re:Twitter's 140 Characters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So why did you tell us your opinion on this then?

    5. Re:Twitter's 140 Characters by xenn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Doug Stanhope on Why Your Opinion Doesn't Matter

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RycwYRcm3Lc

    6. Re:Twitter's 140 Characters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dear Son,

            I'm writing this slow 'cause I know you can't read fast. We don't live
      where we did when you left. Your dad read in the paper where the most
      accidents happened within twenty miles of home,...so we moved.

            I wont be able to send you the address as the last Arkansas family that
      lived here took the numbers with them for their next house so they wouldn't have to
      change their address, wish I would have thought of that.

            This place has a washing machine. The first day I put four shirts in
      it, pulled the chain, and haven't seen 'em since. It only rained twice this
      week, three days the first time and four days the second time.

            The coat you wanted me to send you, Aunt Sue said it would be a little
      too heavy to send in the mail with those heavy buttons, so we cut them off and
      put them in the pockets.

            We got a bill from the funeral home, said if we didn't make the last
      payment on Grandma's funeral bill, up she comes.

            About your sister, she had a baby this morning. I haven't found out
      whether it is a boy or a girl so I don't know if you are an aunt or uncle,
      yet.

            Your Uncle John fell in the whiskey vat. Some of the men tried to pull
      him out, but he fought them off and drowned. We cremated him, and he
      burned for about 3 days.

              Three of your friends when off the bridge in a pickup. One was
      driving, the other two were in the back. The driver got out. He rolled
      down the window and swam to safety. The other two drowned. They couldn't get the
      tailgate down in time.

      Not much more news this time, nothing much happened.

                                                                                      Love, Mom.

      P.S. I WAS GOING TO SEND YOU MONEY, but the envelope was already sealed.

    7. Re:Twitter's 140 Characters by CAIMLAS · · Score: 4, Informative

      To me telling strangers or vague people everything all the time is giving up my privacy.

      I lived in a small "population center" of 1200 people once, for about 8 months. It was living hell. Nothing you did - NOTHING - was private, and half of what you did do was misconstrued into something else entirely different. If the wrong person didn't like you, the most vicious rumors would spill out. It didn't matter if it was true; I know quite a few people were forced out of town on threat of fraudulent criminal charges, and heard suggestive rumor that the same thing was "in the works" to happen to me.

      Since that time, I've been very, very protective of my privacy. Rumors in a small community can ruin a person, and your reputation is paramount in the business world to success (regardless of actual merit). As such, I'm careful about what it is I actually broadcast as "me".

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    8. Re:Twitter's 140 Characters by muridae · · Score: 4, Informative

      You have never lived in a small town, have you? As the new person, if you are friendly then you must be hiding something. If you are quiet, you are hiding something. If you talk to people, you are trying to blend in and are hiding something. 1200 people, you might meet 100 in the first week, but the other 1100 will have heard about you from their friends and family. I grew up in a town only a bit larger, under 5000 people, and when someone new moved to town people would know their favorite ice cream flavor before they ever met them. New people being those not already kin to one of the three or four families, or marrying into one of those families.

      Okay, so my perspective is from a small southern town. Maybe them yankees do it differently.

  2. IRC by Hatta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just idle on IRC instead.

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    1. Re:IRC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      IRC is a vacuum through which sanity slowly escapes the brain. It is proliferated by sociopathic assholes and the occasional psychopath off his medication. If you want a really good example of what happens when you let the lunatics run the asylum, IRC is it. And the worst part is, even well-meaning people who come there get sucked into its cyber-bullying, cynical norm and either succumb to it or get the hell out... leaving only the most warped idiots to argue amongst themselves.

    2. Re:IRC by lennier · · Score: 5, Insightful

      All that is true... but it does also have a dark side.

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      You are not a brain: http://books.google.com/books?id=2oV61CeDx-YC
  3. "Outside" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hear if you visit this "Outside" you can meet other people and network with them. You can have friends, interests, conversations, etc. The whole deal.

    1. Re:"Outside" by countertrolling · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are you kidding? "Outside" is dangerous! It's full of viruses, and spyware all around you with their parabolic microphones and telephoto lenses... And you really don't want to have to deal with the security system. Lots of false positives that can be a real pain. Take my advice. Stay "Inside" and lock the doors.

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      For justice, we must go to Don Corleone
    2. Re:"Outside" by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What if you live in some dump where all the other people around are a bunch of dimwit rednecks or people who just want to talk about sports or something similarly inane?

      That's the nice thing about internet boards, chat rooms, etc. You can find people who actually want to talk about interesting things, instead of reality TV and sports like most morons. Unfortunately, most of the time you find that they aren't located anywhere near you.

      Maybe if you live in a region/country where the vast majority of the population isn't bumbling idiots, and there's no obvious way to find people who aren't, your advice would make some sense.

      I don't know about where you live, but in my city, the only places to socialize offline are work, church, and bars. If you have interesting cow-orkers, that's great, but some of us are stuck with sports fans. Church is for people who are easily led into supporting Sarah Palin, and generally not a good place to meet people with intellectual pursuits, plus it can be a little awkward when they ask you about your "personal relationship with Jesus" and you tell them you think he was just some hippie spreading Buddhist philosophy, and the written stories about him are completely wrong just like any legend or myth. Bars are for people who like to drink to the point of inebriation.

  4. Big name = other people by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's the problem: if you're on a social network that few have heard of, what's the point?

    Isn't the purpose of say, Facebook, the fact that nearly everyone uses it? How would a "social network" without other people even work?

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    1. Re:Big name = other people by ArsonSmith · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nobody uses facebook anymore, it's too crowded.

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      Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
    2. Re:Big name = other people by leromarinvit · · Score: 5, Funny

      How would a "social network" without other people even work?

      It would obviously be an antisocial network.

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      Proud member of the Ferengi Socialist Party.
  5. Missing the point by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The thing that makes "social media" useful is its userbase. You could never have found/kept in touch with your old friends if you weren't signed up for a service they were also signed up for. Trying to find a smaller service by definitions means it's not going to be as useful to you.

  6. Strange... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The only way to win...is to not play.

    Seriously, that's the best way to stay out of the Social Media Black Hole. Don't log in. Don't make an account. EVER. Ignore the temptation. Ignore the appeal.

  7. Other choices by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative

    LinkedIn is useful for business purposes. LinkedIn offers a big hammer that discourages spammers. If someone tries to "friend" you, and you don't know them, you click "I don't know this person". After a few rejections, the annoying user loses the ability to "friend" people. The same goes for "questions"; if someone puts up a question that looks like spam, and it's flagged, they soon lose the ability to post "questions". As a result, there are people on LinkedIn worth talking to. However, a big fraction of the users are "consultants" trolling for work. Lots of lawyers, but, after all, lawyers are consultants trolling for work.

    I used to enjoy Tribe, which was fun and useful if you're near SF, because many of the people doing interesting art things in SF were on Tribe. But they have near zero traffic now. A few years back, they went "Web 2.0", and they broke their system so badly that "Tribe bug reports" became the most active group. Then they decided to crack down on "adult" topics to please their advertisers, and a big chunk of their user base left. Then they annoyed their main developer, and he left. After those mistakes, I think they're down to about three employees.

  8. Re:tribe by sentientbeing · · Score: 4, Funny

    Adult Friend Finder. When thats down, you'll find me at MSN Gaming Zone, in the Chess rooms.

    ....What..?..Stop looking at me like that!

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  9. Or stay behind the event horizon by weston · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can safely orbit a black hole, if you're beyond the event horizon and pick a trajectory that ensures you stay this way.

    I think Facebook might be best treated this way: create yourself a profile with limited content. Particularly don't give informative answers to specific questions. Include a URL to your personal website / blog. Make that public. Make an email address and phone number visible to friends. Update your status and comment to friends periodically, feed links to content you have elsewhere through it periodically. You get most of the advantages of Facebook's visibility and keep their grip off your content and personal information.

  10. Diaspora by coaxial · · Score: 5, Informative

    Super super super early stage, but very interesting is Diaspora. This open source project aims to create a completely decentralized social network. It's inspired by Eben Moglen's call for us to break out of the walled gardens.

    While walled gardens aren't going away, I really hope this project is at least partially successful giving people back control of their own data.

  11. O'Really? by cosm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the whole rest of the planet isn't using it, what's the point? Windows is what we're stuck with. Get over it.

    So its ok to just bend over and take it since it is popular? What if Torvalds had this attitude? If nobody challenges the leader, then we are stuck with their mediocrity; the lack of competition will yield sub-par satisfaction. Having that kind of attitude is completely nullifies any incentive for innovation and new ideas, and stifles the chance for competition to improve what the [insert mainstream platform here] offers.

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    'We are trying to prove ourselves wrong as quickly as possible, because only in that way can we find progress.' RPF
  12. Are you really worried that much about Facebook? by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sure, Mark Zuckerberg's a douchebag, but most large corporations are run by douchebags and yet I still buy Cheerios at WalMart and drive a Chrysler.

    Here's the thing - and don't tell anybody I told you this - if you don't put anything private on Facebook, then your privacy won't be compromised by it.

    I use Facebook. I use it because most of my friends are on it. It's a nice way to stay in touch with people who I know, but most of whom I couldn't finish a single beer with and still have anything to talk about. I like these folks - they're part of my past and present - bu some people I only have very small things in common with. I also know when things are happening (a friend's play, or their kids league championship ball game), and where I have common interests with acquaintances whom I would either not interact with at all, or would take years to become closer.

    But guess what - I don't put anything on Facebook which is (a) embarrassing (b) particularly personal (c) not already available with an internet search. I never Facebook while drunk (well, I don't get drunk - but you get the idea), and I don't attack people or things. I don't join "causes". I'm not a marketing wasteland, though. I've filled out my "favorite" things sections. BFD. If knowing that I'm in my 40s, like Bowling for Soup and Amadeus, and am married gets Facebook a couple of dollars in ad revenue, go for it. Kroger already knows when I'm on a fucking Diet, and CVS probably informs their spies when the rest of my household has seasonal allergies.

    So, that brings me back - unless you really need something else, and are willing and able to migrate your entire friend group to it - quit your whining, be smart with your data, and surf with due caution. You know you can't trust Zuckerberg, and that's 98% of the way to keeping your information safe.

    Oh - and whatever you go to will be just as bad eventually. Google can't always not be evil, and even open source projects can have a mole.

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
  13. Build your own by Darth+Cider · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check out the free and open source software, Caucus and build your own social network. I belong to such a Caucus-based community, where invited members can speak openly, and I strongly agree that Facebook is seriously limited by privacy concerns.

    You could also look up "The Well" and see what communities of a similar nature are out there. Seems you're looking for something like that.

  14. Standardize? by jalfrock · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Will it eventually be possible to have a social-networking standard so that anyone can run their own server, just as with email? In that case it wouldn't matter if one friend uses facebook, another myspace, a third linkedin; they would all adhere to the same standard and so which particular social-networking service you use would become irrelevant.

    PS: I apologize for being lazy but I haven't thought about this at all, so there could easily be some glaring reason why it can't possibly work.

  15. How on Earth has nobody mentioned this one?... by sznupi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot.

    Been around quite some time, too...or so I heard.

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  16. Re:Are you really worried that much about Facebook by drooling-dog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But guess what - I don't put anything on Facebook which is (a) embarrassing (b) particularly personal (c) not already available with an internet search.

    It's not necessarily what personal info you put on Facebook that's going to come back to bite you in the ass; it's your social network itself. Back in the 1950s, during the McCarthy witchhunt, you got into trouble not so much for what you did, but for who you associated with (or even were just seen talking to). At that point you had the choice of either denouncing that person or being blacklisted yourself. As an aspiring dictator, I drool profusely thinking about how easily I'll be able to cleanse the social landscape of it's undesirable elements. They're falling all over themselves trying to give me lists of all their friends, no housecalls or torture needed.

    Of course, it can't happen here, falling on deaf ears, etc...

  17. Blaise Pascal, not Goethe. by rootrot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte.
    ~ Blaise Pascal, Lettres Provinciales, xvi (1657)
    [I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter.]

  18. maybe neither? by Splatus · · Score: 4, Interesting