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NASA Expands Role of International Space Station

coondoggie writes "NASA is looking for a few good experiments to run in space. The space agency this week said it was seeking research ideas (PDF) from private entities who want to do research on board the International Space Station. NASA said it was looking to expand the use of the ISS by providing access to the lab for the conduct of basic and applied research, technology development, and industrial processing to private entities — including commercial firms, non-profit institutions, and academic institutions. NASA said using the ISS as a national lab could help develop a number of applications in areas such as biotechnology, energy, engineering, and remote sensing."

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  1. They should put an ad on Craigslist by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It worked for me when I was renting out a room.

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    1. Re:They should put an ad on Craigslist by natehoy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Penthouse apt for rent. Very cozy efficiency. Fully furnished. Magnificent view. Reserved parking for your vehicle. Onsite gymnasium. Great weight loss program (disclaimer: weight is not the same as mass). Exclusive community in a unique private out-of-the-way setting. Heat and utilities included. No pets. $40,000,000 a week.

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  2. ...the 100 mile high club? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Come on, we all want to know how sex in space works. Its probably the simplest experiment that would generate tons of interest.

  3. lava lamp by rev_sanchez · · Score: 3, Funny

    I say we send one up there and plug it in and point a webcam at it.

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  4. Re:Case in point by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    NASA emphasizes the utter uselessness of the ISS by asking people what interesting things can be done with it.

    Yes, and the HiRISE camera on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is useless as demonstrated by NASA asking people what interesting things could be photographed with it. Manned stations, robotic probes, equally useless!

    P.S. I agree, more robotic probes. But seriously, sending out a call for researchers to propose experiments is not an indication of uselessness.

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  5. Re:Out of interest by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What kind of work is useful to experiment on in microgravity?

    Don't know how useful it is, but Japanese astronaut Naoko Yamazaki has demonstrated that soap bubbles retain their color in space, answering a scientific question from her daughter.

    Again, how useful this is will depend on the person.

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  6. Suggestions by kenp2002 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sadly since I pissed off 1 to many NASA engineers in the past (blah blah Crusader project by UDLP, blah blah trying making some money... blah blah blah remote mining and processing project... sub orbital meteor mining is a stupid idea...)

    Anyway they'll no likely to talk to me (ever again) so here are my suggestions. Please feel free to run with them:

    1: Sex (Duh. We all want to know.)
    2: Artifical ring construction via centrifical force =

    Take a spinning sphere and launch a tethered satellite while still spinning. from the teathered satellite launch another teather out such that the secondary teather is long enough to have the circumfrence of the satellite's oribital circumfurance. See if you can get it to hook up back to the original satellite to create an artifical ring on which we can construct stuff. (may required 2 satellites at opposite sides.

    3: Behavior of molten metal in low gravity for crystal structure analysis (see if effect is more brittle or harded.)

    4: Better estimate of open space survival time of a human being.

    5: Field test atmosphering re-entry capable space suit for orbital deployment of troops (GETA LL WARHAMMA 40K ON YA!)

    6: Polymer extrusion and blown film line test in low gravity for polymer chain linkage testing.

    7: Smoking in the cargo bay in low-G (Can you blow smoke rings in low-g)

    8: Will a paper airplain with a weight of less then .5 lbs survive re-entry to Earth?

    9: Subspace structural testing to see if spacial structure exists (e.g. test if space itself has an actual shape, e.g. a quantum of space itself (rather then an infinitly divisible continum))

    10: Test if the bullshit in DC is so thick you can really smell it on the ISS.

    Just a few...

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    1. Re:Suggestions by natehoy · · Score: 4, Funny

      centrifical

      teather(ed)

      oribital circumfurance

      atmosphering re-entry

      is more brittle or harded

      paper airplain

      infinitly divisible continum

      The first requirement of submitted proposals to NASA is to do so in English. We all know how well foreign languages (or measurement systems) work out. C'mon, this isn't rocket science! :)

      It does lead me to one important question, however...

      Polymer extrusion and blown film line test in low gravity for polymer chain linkage testing.

      How do you spell "polymer", "extrusion", "gravity", and "linkage" correctly and use them in a coherent-sounding sentence, then get "airplane" wrong? ;)

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  7. Re:I'd rather keep my money, thanks. by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll bet the use of your taxes to pay for public libraries really pisses you off too! You just sit there drinking your tang, typing on your computer and watching your satellite TV, bitching about all the money wasted on the space program...

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  8. Re:I'd rather keep my money, thanks. by Dishevel · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I am so fine with that. Can we stop paying for the poor too? I just want the Government to give me 3 things. A standing military, infrastructure (Power, Water, Sewage, Transportation and Data), and to protect my ability to Pursue happiness.

    I do not need my government to give me stuff. By the pursuit of happiness, I mean of course things like keeping monopolies from abusing their positions and encouraging real competition in the market place. So I can get rich if I really work at it.

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  9. Re:Case in point by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sorry, you said that asking for suggestions on research to be done just emphasizes its uselessness. That's not a strawman, that's what you said. It's not my fault that same logic applies equally to things you like such as MRO or Hubble.

    Let's not assume that manned and unmanned missions can do the same thing, because they can't. Manned missions can't visit Saturn or Mars yet for that matter. And there are plenty of experiments that are much more easily performed with human supervision than without, and with pre-existing infrastructure than without. ISS is already up there, and contains space-shuttle-payload size bays designed exclusively for research. It isn't useless, the space agencies involved are already performing experiments on it. Expanding the number of experiments done is expanding its usefulness, not admitting it isn't useful at all as you claimed.

    Again, we're in agreement that robotic probes are cheaper and better for exploring the solar system and beyond. I disagree with your stance that the ISS is useless. And your statement that asking for research to be conducted on it demonstrates this uselessness is factually and logically wrong.

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  10. Re:Oooh, Oooh, Idea! by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh come on a LOT better idea list.....

    1 - how long do lawyers last in space without a space suit.
    2 - effects on lawyers when exposed to explosive decompression.
    3 - effects of solar radiation on a lawyer in a space suit.
    4 - effects of solar radation on a lawyer without a space suit.
    5 - effects of amoebic dysentery on a lawyer in micro-gravity.
    6 - how long do lawyers last as an ablative shield during re-entry.
    7 - what is the maximum ballistic speed a lawyer can reach.

    etc...

    Oh and as a control do the same experiments on MPAA and RIAA executives.

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  11. Re:Case in point by FSWKU · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With all due respect, "colonizing the New World" is a fantasy. Consider this: How much money, time, and resources would it cost to move 10,000 people (a miniscule fraction of England's population) "to the New World" in a manner that they could survive for 10 years (a miniscule fraction of human life). Put them 1) on a ship, 2) on an island, or 3) on the mainland. Have them 1) be totally dependent on England for equipment, resources and tools, 2) dependent on England for only half, and 3) completely self-sustained. At the end of the 10 year period, they should be completely self-sustained in any scenario you choose.

    Please don't make extensive use of the old "we don't know what advances there will be" trick to pretend that at some point it will all be really cheap and easy. Historically, that has never happened. Larger, more advanced sailing ships have always been expensive, and this particular case will be no exception. Creating large-scale colonies is also always expensive in direct proportion to the inhospitability of the environment and its distance from the resource support of the crown.

    Nobody is saying that it will be cheap or even easy in the remotely near future. But is that really a valid reason to not even make the attempt? You have to start somewhere, and it will NEVER be cheap/routine if we as a society don't start working toward that goal. Along the way, we can use the technological advances derived from such exploration to (hopefully) better life for those here on Earth. Even something unrelated to ship construction or propulsion systems (such as a self-sustaining food/oxygen supply) could be scaled up to benefit people in the more remote regions of the world.

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