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Hot Aisle Or Cold Aisle For Containment?

1sockchuck writes "Separating the hot and cold air in a data center is one of the keys to improving energy efficiency. But containment systems don't have to be fancy or expensive, as Google showed in a presentation Thursday, which discussed the use of clear vinyl curtains in isolating hot and cold aisles. Containment systems have been in use at least since 2004, but there's an ongoing debate about whether it is best to contain the hot aisle or cold aisle. Leading vendors are split as well, as APC advances hot aisle containment while Emerson/Liebert champions a cold aisle approach. What say Slashdot readers? Do you use containment in your data center? If so, do you contain the hot aisle or cold aisle?"

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  1. Supermarkets by shogun · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought this article was about supermarkets, where it might be a good idea anyway too..

    1. Re:Supermarkets by burne · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dutch supermarkets are doing that. Test your dutch: original or test google translate: translated.

    2. Re:Supermarkets by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm disappointed that I don't see a single Tesla vs. Edison reference. :(

  2. Can you try both methods? by e9th · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Depending on how your facility is ducted, it might not cost much to try both options and measure the results. Even if you have to spend a few thousand doing so, the long term savings from choosing the best method for your site would probably be well worth the cost of testing.

    1. Re:Can you try both methods? by twisteddk · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, as most companies that have to build a new datacenter will tell you. It's cheaper to generate heat than cold. So I'd go for cold containment. Generally speaking most companies do AIM to put their new datacenters as close to the north pole as possible simply because it's cheaper to use outside air that's natually cold. That puts countries like Canada, Greenland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland in high demand for datacenters (end technicians to staff them). If the US didn't have rediculous data laws, Alska might also be ideal.

      In our new datacenter we're even using the excess heating from the servers to heat the offices ontop of the giant basements below. This sort of setup is ideal for outside temperatures that generally range below the normal cooling needs of a server (or several). But in any event there's still a huge bill to pay for moving the air back and forth, so containment is definately still an issue, as is the size of the pipes when you have say... 10MW of electricity going into your servers and quite a lot of that energy coming back out as heat ;)

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    2. Re:Can you try both methods? by Thundersnatch · · Score: 3, Informative

      That puts countries like Canada, Greenland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland in high demand for datacenters (end technicians to staff them). If the US didn't have rediculous data laws, Alska might also be ideal.

      Some datacenters perhaps, that don't need good Internet connectivity. But the latency between major populations and the far North makes those locations less desirable. We have struggles with the latency between Chicago and Dallas with some applications; Chicago-to-Fairbanks would be quite a bit more painful.

    3. Re:Can you try both methods? by ZorinLynx · · Score: 3, Funny

      >10MW of electricity going into your servers and quite a lot of that energy coming back out as heat ;)

      All of it. The laws of thermodynamics are clear.

      Sorry, I can't help being a smartass sometimes. ;)

    4. Re:Can you try both methods? by loshwomp · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sweden and Finland in high demand for datacenters (end technicians to staff them).

      Why would you want to staff your datacenters with proctologists?

    5. Re:Can you try both methods? by countertrolling · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You forgot Iceland...

      Yeah well, they're having a little trouble with containment right now themselves. And it appears geothermal isn't as clean as it was made out to be.

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    6. Re:Can you try both methods? by starfishsystems · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You can build a switched network to connect the remote data center to the point of presence where you want it to join the backbone.

      Though this does nothing to mitigate time-of-flight latency, it nicely eliminates the latency and jitter issues due to routing. It's what we did at Westgrid to connect our computing clusters to storage facilities many hundreds of kilometers away.

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    7. Re:Can you try both methods? by pla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Depending on how your facility is ducted, it might not cost much to try both options and measure the results.

      Call me naive, but... Why not do both at once?

      Cold air goes in from the bottom (or one side), through the rack, and hot air goes out the top (or the other side). I realize that companies don't really care about such minutiae, but that would allow the mere humans that occasionally need to service all those expensive racks to experience a temperature other than 40F or 120F.

      Or, hey, how about just cooling the damned things with intelligently ducted outside air and cutting the electric bill by a third?

  3. Cold by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny

    What say Slashdot readers? Do you use containment in your data center? If so, do you contain the hot aisle or cold aisle?

    I think that I speak for most readers here when I say that it's pretty much all cold aisle down here in my mom's dank basement. Not much containment either, other than some pegboard partitions.

    1. Re:Cold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, it's definitely cold down there. But your mom was hot! The lack of decent containment did spoil the fun somewhat!

  4. I suggest hot aisle containment by mysidia · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Contain and exhaust your heated air, vent it up outside

    That way it doesn't mix with the cold air much.

    If you just contain your cold air, then you have a situation where the hot air is staying in the room, and that heat will be absorbed over a larger surface area, by all the things in your server room (including the Air handling units).

    1. Re:I suggest hot aisle containment by nacturation · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You can still vent the hot air elsewhere, but the problem with hot air only containment is that then the entire room is effectively one large cold aisle, contained within the walls and the limiting factor is how well insulated the walls are. If that logic holds, it's better to limit the size of the cold aisle as you can add a lot more really good insulation where appropriate to limit unwanted heat absorption.

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    2. Re:I suggest hot aisle containment by SuperQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think containing the hot isle is probably the best way to go as well.

      * When I'm working in a datacenter I'd rather be walking around in the cold isle (~70-80F in a modern datacenter) than the hot isle (100-120F if properly contained)
      * Containing the hot isle and to a small space and using the rest of the air and space around the rack (up to the ceiling, walking isles, etc) allows more volume of cool air to be a buffer in case of low/failed cooling capacity.

    3. Re:I suggest hot aisle containment by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I suggest containing the cold air.

      If you contain the hot air you must cool a much larger area, which is very inefficient and makes anybody who must work in the server room less comfortable when compared to allowing waste heat to warm the main areas. More comfortable, less energy wasted cooling the cold aisle, and less energy wasted venting the hot aisle.

      A vinyl partition is plenty of separation, and if you want to upgrade, use two vinyl partitions separated by an air gap. That's the same basic setup that the ski resort in Dubai uses, except they use two roofs instead of two vinyl partitions, of course. Air is a fantastic insulator when it is not allowed to mix.

      Temperature lost through seepage from solid objects is going to be minimal, at best, unless they are made of large sections of aluminum or copper. Frankly, I've never seen a server room with large panels of aluminum or copper, so I don't see that being an issue.

      See why there is a debate?

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    4. Re:I suggest hot aisle containment by Daengbo · · Score: 2, Informative

      A recent article on Google's data centers said that they run as close to maximum temperature as possible: if the servers are rated to 90, they only cool to 88. Google is extremely efficient. The article said that the energy overhead for their data centers is only about 20%, while most data centers run 100%. Because of that, I'm sure Google has studied the server fan issue and determined that it's not a significant factor.

  5. Datacenter containment by thewiz · · Score: 5, Funny

    We only resort to using containment when the servers have been very, very naughty. We've found that chains, steel cable and duct tape are the best ways to keep servers in their racks.

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    1. Re:Datacenter containment by tepples · · Score: 4, Funny

      We've found that chains, steel cable and duct tape are the best ways to keep servers in their racks.

      Don't steel cable. It's illegel.

  6. Cold by KingDaveRa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If we were to retro-fit it at work, I'd say cold aisle. To do so would mean curtains at the end of the aisles, as the under-floor vent grids are in front of the racks. The CRACs are at the end of the room sucking in air through the top, so it'd be cool air pumped up through the floor, into a cold-only zone, sucked through the racks, blown out the back into the rest of the room where it just swirls about until it's pulled into the CRACs again. I reckon it could be done cheaply and quickly. Do do it with the hot aisles would require more containment to get the air back to the CRACs. I think it'd be a case of which air flow it fits best.

  7. McDonalds already holds the patent... by ctmurray · · Score: 3, Funny
  8. Hot or Cold? by siglercm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but the answer shouldn't be complex. Base the decision to contain either hot or cold aisles on the differences to ambient temperature. If (HotT - AmbientT) > (AmbientT - ColdT), then contain the hot aisles. If it's the other way around, contain the cold aisles. This minimizes the entropy loss due to temperature mixing in the data center, I believe. Just my 2 cents.

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    1. Re:Hot or Cold? by SuperQ · · Score: 4, Informative

      This sorta doesn't work because what you care about in datacenter cooling is maintaining a constant equipment inlet temp. For all practical uses this means your AmbientT and ColdT are the same. What you did get right is that you want the largest delta T in your cooling equipment to provide efficient cooling. No matter what you do with hot or cold "containment" the end goal is to keep the HotT as high as possible when it hits your cooling system.

    2. Re:Hot or Cold? by networkBoy · · Score: 3, Funny

      so far everyone's got it wrong.
      since you don't want unauthorized people in the DC you seal it up (with only exhaust ports and a door). Pump LN2 into evaps in the room. Authorized techs are issued Scott Air Packs. Unauthorized people expire before they can do damage, and as a bonus the room has built in fire suppression ;-)

      -nB

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    3. Re:Hot or Cold? by jo_ham · · Score: 2, Funny

      More threads!

      More threads means more entropy!

      Get a big enough T x deltaS and the server will cool itself!

  9. Where is your datacenter? by Jave1in · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The best solution is going to based on the average ambient temperature of your location. If you're in a hot environment, why contain the cold if you need additional A/C in the datacenter for employees? Reduce costs by using the same equipment to cool both. If you're in a cold region, then let the heat also warm the datacenter. If you're in an ideal temperature environment, then you don't have much to worry about beside good air flow.

  10. Re:FIRST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why is this modded offtopic? OP was clearly stating expressing his support for hot aisles.

  11. As a former employee of one of those companies... by Mhrmnhrm · · Score: 4, Informative

    I can honestly say you win either way. The electricity/cost savings of containment will pay for itself regardless of where you put the doors. That said, whether you choose to go HAC or CAC is really choosing between different trade-offs.

    HAC (The APC method): Seemed to be cheaper and easier to install. Since the hot aisle is being contained, if something happens to your coolers, you have a longer ride-through time as there's a much larger volume of cold air to draw from. However, at least when I got out of the business, HAC *required* the use of in-row cooling, and with APC, that meant water in your rows. Europeans don't seem to mind that, but Americans do (which provided an opening for Emerson's XD phase-change systems, dunno if APC has an equivalent or not yet). I personally wouldn't be too keen on having to spend more than a few minutes inside that hot aisle, either.

    CAC (The Emerson method): Seemed to be more expensive, especially in refit scenarios (they appeared to be more focused on winning the big "green-field" jobs more than upgrading old sites), but it can usually leverage existing CRAC units, so you could potentially save enough there to make it competitive, as well as avoid vendor lock-in. The whole room becomes the equivalent of a hot aisle, but convection and the building's HVAC can somewhat mitigate that, so it'll still be uncomfortable working behind a rack, it doesn't feel quite the sauna that an HAC system does. Depending on whose CRAC equipment you buy (or already have), EC plug fans and VSD-driven blowers can save even more money if properly configured.

    Other: I've seen the "Tower of Cool" or "chimney" style system, and flat out hate it. They look like a great idea on the face of it: much cheaper, faster installation, able to use building HVAC, etc. But let's be honest. Your servers are designed for front-to-rear airflow. So are the SANs, NASs, TBUs, rack UPSs, and practically everything else you've put in your datacenter, apart from those screwball Cisco routers that have a side-to-side pattern (Seriously... what WERE they thinking on that one???). Why would you then try to establish an upwards-pointed airflow that's got a giant suction hose at the center of the rack's roof, where it can just as easily pull cold air from the front (starving your systems) as it does hot air from the back?

    Personally, I like cold aisle better. If I'm going to be spending two hours sitting behind a server because I can't do something via remote (forced into untangling the network cable rat's nest, perhaps), I like the idea of being merely uncomfortable and a bit sweaty than dripping buckets while cursing the bean-counters who forced me to lay off the PFY two months ago. There are also some neat controllers that work with CRAC units to establish just the right amount of airflow to fully feed the row and manage their output, so if running five CRACs at 50% is more power efficient than running three at 100%, that's what they do. I know folks who like hot aisle better. It's more fun for them to show-off their prize datacenter since all the areas you'd want to see (unless you're the one responsible for power strips or cable management) are cool.

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  12. contain the heat by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When you contain the heat, you then have the ability to move it around and use it for cogeneration, thus vastly increasing your overall efficiency.

  13. Both by funkboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The answer will be specific to each implementation.

    But in general, it should be pretty obvious to anyone that understands basic thermodynamics: get the "cold" into the servers without mixing it with the ambient or letting it touch any hot metal, and get the heat out of the servers without mixing it with the ambient or letting it heat up any other metal.

    It should be pretty obvious that air is not really the best way to do this; air goes all over the place, and is not a very good thermal conductor (relatively speaking).

    There are entire 10k+ machine datacenters in France that use only liquid cooling circuits, right up to the servers. Energy costs for running the external condensers are a small fraction of what it would cost to do the same thing with air. Of course, it helps if you only have your own machines in such an environment, but if APC, Emerson, etc were serious about efficient cooling then they'd partner with HP, Dell, etc. to make standardized systems that would allow this...

  14. Use Styrofoam(tm) by sydbarrett74 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I mean it worked for the McDonald's McDLT back in the 80's...

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  15. Both might actually be best by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's cheaper to generate heat than cold. So I'd go for cold containment.

    Actually containing both might be best since then you will have a "room temp" air gap between the two and air is a fantastic insulator. IF you do not contain the hot then the heat will diffuse and the air on the other side of the vinyl curtain will be warmer than room temp. This will warm your incoming cool air. The effect may not be particularly noticeable but it would be an interesting test to see if there is a noticeable improvement to doing both.