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HP Reportedly Cancels Plans for Windows 7 Tablet

A recent post up at TechCrunch claims that HP's "Slate" tablet has been canceled. Officials details for the tablet were limited, though a leaked internal presentation indicated it had an 8.9" screen, a 1.6GHz Atom processor, and ran on Windows 7. Some are now speculating that HP may experiment with porting WebOS to a similar device. Quoting: "Will WebOS emerge as a successful operating system for tablet devices? That seems very unlikely given the dominance of the closed Apple OS and the likely success of the open Android and Chrome operating systems from Google. To get traction from third-party developers with WebOS, HP will need to sell a lot of units. And it's not clear what they'd gain from all that effort, anyway. HP knows how to build and sell hardware, not operating systems."

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  1. Who writes this crap? by davebarnes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "HP knows how to build and sell hardware, not operating systems."
    MP/E and HP-UX are what? Chopped Liver?

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    1. Re:Who writes this crap? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      HPq traditionally has had great hard ward, but absolutely atrocious software. I have no idea why they are seemingly so incompetent with software, but it's true more often than it isn't. I remember even working with their medical devices back in the 90s. Just awful software, but bulletproof hardware (I don't know what it's like these days). But yeah, there are exceptions, but This one of the reasons I was leery of the slate. It looked interesting, but my gut feeling was that HP would screw it up.

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    2. Re:Who writes this crap? by rolfwind · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Wow, obviously two great and consumer friendly examples.

    3. Re:Who writes this crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If only there were some company they could buy with expertise on making OSes for mobile devices...

    4. Re:Who writes this crap? by symbolset · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For a portable device like this tablet if you start with an Intel Atom and add Windows 7 then performance will be poor, costs will be high, battery life will be short. The customer experience will be unsatisfactory because W7 isn't designed for tablet use and Microsoft won't let HP customize it sufficiently to make it useful.

      So no, HP didn't screw this up - it was a dumb idea from the start. Its failure was built-in. But they had to show something to try and head off the iPad.

      It looks like Dell started on the right foot.

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    5. Re:Who writes this crap? by Kral_Blbec · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've been using my eee t91mt netbook/tablet convertable for months and I love it. I really see no point in a true tablet when for a marginal price increase you can have the best of both worlds in a convertible. Win 7 works just find in tablet mode, but there will always be times when the keyboard is useful.

    6. Re:Who writes this crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "HP knows how to build and sell hardware, not operating systems."

      Um, maybe thats why they bought Palm? Now they have the WebOS development team.

  2. Re:Intel Atom has Barely Improved in 2 Years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The power efficiency gains are entirely the result of improved chipsets, not improvements in the Atom processor itself. The greatest gains in power efficiency would be a result of combining the processor core and chipset onto the same die (not merely in the same package). To do this however, the Atom core would have to be synthesizable, which it is not.

    Of course, battery life has also improved by putting 6-cell battery packs into netbooks. This kinda defeats the purpose of a small and light computer, but I suppose that's not necessarily too heavy for a netbook. For a tablet, however, 6-cells would probably be too heavy.

  3. Re:Apple knows how to sell computers not phones... by Jer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apple knows how to sell Apple - they've gotten very good at it over the past few decades. A few missteps back in the 90s, but nothing that really tanked their image. If anything, a few of their missteps (like the Newton) played into their image even as they flopped in the market.

    HP, on the other hand, never really realized that branding was important. They know how to sell hardware, but they have never been really good at selling HP as a brand. Which means it will be much harder for them to expand into a new market than it was for Apple. Buying Palm probably won't help much - Palm isn't exactly the most respected name in the market either these days.

  4. No big mystery here by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Several previously-announced tablet projects have been canceled now and the reason should be obvious. Before it's release, everyone was predicting that the iPad was going to be priced around $1000. Many companies felt that they could release a competing product that could undercut that price and started designing hardware. When it turned out that the price of the iPod was half of what it was expected to be, suddenly those $800 (or whatever) tablets became pointless. The companies had two choices: drop the price to $499, which would have meant losing money on each unit, or drop the project. The smart thing to do was obvious.

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  5. Re:Dell coming out with Android Tablets by mlingojones · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not sure why everyone assumes that Android is a better choice for HP than webOS. Who cares if it's "open" - HP now owns the codebase to webOS, so while there may be an advantage to going with Android over Windows 7, there isn't one to going with Android over webOS.

  6. Atom tablets are a bad idea. WebOS or Android? by steveha · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unless there is some ultra-low-heat version of the Atom chipset, an Atom tablet will need a cooling fan, and cooling vents. Part of the tablet will get warm and warm air will vent out one side. And this means that battery life is being wasted, converted to useless heat. Bigger, heavier, clunkier, and less battery life. Lose/lose/lose/lose. And your major advantage of the Atom is that it runs off-the-shelf Windows (or Linux) but off-the-shelf doesn't take good advantage of a touchpad; you are better off with something like Android.

    I don't know if HP will put Palm's WebOS on their first tablet, or take the conservative choice and just do another Android tablet. I'm no marketing guy, but I just don't see much cachet in the WebOS; if you want to advertise lots of apps and a nice app store, Android would be the way to go. It's good for everyone (except Apple and Microsoft) if Android becomes a very standard platform with lots of units in the field to build a market segment that wants Android apps. (Right now if you are an apps developer, it's pretty much a given that you need to support iPhone... and maybe you don't even bother to support anything else! I'm hoping that the Android will become at least an equal target for apps, if not bigger than iPhone.)

    On the other hand, would HP pay 1.2 billion dollars just to get Palm's expertise and staff? HP must have some sort of plans for WebOS. Which argues that they are likely to go with WebOS on their new tablets. But I don't see how they can turn that into a sales advantage. ("We have an OS nobody else has... it's exclusive!" sounds better than "You can't use the Android app store apps on this platform" but they mean the same thing.)

    steveha

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