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Is Apple's Attack On Flash Really About Video?

jamiegau writes "Here we have a long and in-depth blog post analyzing the faults in Steve Jobs's Letter about Flash. The writer concludes with an interesting idea that it is all about online video."

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  1. Re:Games too by dc29A · · Score: 1, Troll

    He got modded down because he is clueless. Apple App Store was never intended to be profitable. That said, the high markup on iDevices makes up for it. Yes there are a huge number of games on App Store but its there to fuel the iDevice sales so that people won't have any incentives to switch to Android or WM7 (when it's out). Apple can say: Hey! We got 200k Apps! Buy our iDevices because if you go with Android they got only 50k!

  2. Flash: The Internet's Undead Ghoul by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's like asking, "Hmmm, do we hate vampires because they feed on the living, or because of their ridiculous Goth fashion sense and their stench of formaldehyde?"

    Who Cares?! Just drive a stake threw 'em, and the sooner the better...

  3. Re:No it's not by BitZtream · · Score: 1, Troll

    If Apple allows cross compilers, guess what? People won't be 'loyal' to Apple and will migrate to Android, BB or WM7 devices because their apps are on those platforms as well.

    Wrong.

    BlackBerry and WinMo simply aren't competition for the iPhone. They may think they are ... a few people may write about them as if they are, but anyone who has physically touched both devices knows better. The only people that actually think the BB or WM7 devices are competition has never actually touched both devices.

    The iPhone was a land slide hit BEFORE the AppStore existed. If the AppStore lockin is what made the iPhone popular then I'm in awe of how Steve managed to get millions of the devices sold and make it a world wide sensation ... BEFORE he even announced the part that people wanted.

    People don't by an iPhone because of the AppStore. They by the iPhone because its a good, usable, user friendly device that has the features they want.

    Then theres Android. There are three types of people that buy android devices.

    1) The geek. The true geek loves his/her Android phone. Unfortunately there are only 8 true geeks that own Android phones and they all work at Google. These people love their Android phones.

    2) The wanna be geek. This is the person who really isn't a geek, but is a Linux/OSS/GPL fanboy/fanatic. They own a Android phone because it suits their current angsty battlecry and current method of 'sticking it to the man'. These people don't like Android but they'll never admit it. They want you to think they love it because they want you to love it to, and by proxy, love their precious Linux. This portion consitutions almost ALL of the android phone owners in existence.

    3) The normal person who thinks Android might not suck. This group is really hard to estimate size for. Unfortunately, this group owns an Android device for some length of time less than that allowed to return it. This group of people will buy an Android device, realize that it has nothing special to offer and to put it bluntly, it isn't an iPhone. At this point, they Android device gets returned and they go buy an iPhone. The only exception to this are those people locked in contracts with Verizon and T-Mobile, they continue to suffer at this point due to the missing iPhone on their respective networks and their unwillingness to move to a new provider for various other reasons (such as AT&Ts shitty service coverage).

    In case you haven't really noticed, Cell phones, even smart phones were a commodity 5 years ago, probably closer to 10 at this point. People aren't buying iPhones because of the AppStore. They are buying iPhones because they break the mold of shitty devices and now everyone else in the world is trying to copy it. Your argument is that by allowing flash it would allow people to use other phones ... but ... they can already use flash on other phones now ... So your argument becomes 'only the iphone has good games and they aren't in flash so I can't run them on other phones' ... in which case maybe ... just maybe ... its time you realize why the iPhone has the great games and no one else does, if you haven't figured it out yet, skip back to the top of my post and start reading again.

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  4. Re:God save flash! by BitZtream · · Score: 0, Troll

    or "free" at all but

    You seriously need to learn the difference between 'Open', 'Free', and GPL zealots definition of 'free' in this context before you start making comments like that.

    The rest of the world outside of GPL fanboys have an entirely different definition of open and free that h264 fits into nicely.

    If you guys want to continue to play with the rest of the world, you might want to stop trying to invent your own definitions of words to suit your agenda, it just causes everyone else in the world to realize you sprew more bullshit than truth.

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  5. Re:Games too by MikeFM · · Score: 0, Troll

    BS. The only benefit Apple gets by not allowing Flash is to not have to deal with a million slow poorly written apps that make the iPhone/iPad suck. There is almost no benefit to using Flash and the vast majority of Flash apps suck and would create customer service issues for Apple. I've never seen a good Flash app. What has everybody so in a boner that they must have Flash? 90% of Flash could have been written with HTML/CSS/Javascript and 99.99% with HTML5. That extra tiny percentage probably would be better off as a real app anyway. There are already to many suck apps for iPhone. If you're to lazy or stupid to learn a new language then don't try to push your crap on me. I just wish Apple would block more apps from the App Store so i didn't have to sort through alpha quality crap. Customers are paying a premium NOT to have to look at badly made crap.

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