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Google Acquires BumpTop Desktop

TuringTest writes "BumpTop, a company that provides a multi-touch physical desktop metaphor, has been acquired by Google and made to 'no longer be available for sale.' BumpTop provides a direct way to handle information through simple gestures. Some media see this acquisition as a movement by Google to position against the iPad. Will BumpTop be ported to Android?"

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  1. If it's like their other acquisitions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It'll languish for a few years, the main people behind it will quit, and we'll never see it reach its potential.

    1. Re:If it's like their other acquisitions by JidsDB · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's what I'm thinking, but I have the feeling that it won't really be used on computers anymore - more likely in Chrome/Android netbooks and slates, although using it to navigate a TV interface would be kinda cool. Placing the different options where you want them, grouping files by type - MKVs, AVIs, etc. or perhaps by program, put Planet Earth in that corner, Heroes, House, and CSI in that corner, etc. I just want to know why they don't want it to be available to the public anymore, because it had a lot of awesome features.

    2. Re:If it's like their other acquisitions by bhartman34 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You mean like happened with their acquisition of Writely? ;)

    3. Re:If it's like their other acquisitions by ShinmaWa · · Score: 5, Informative

      It'll languish for a few years

      More like hours. Right after they were bought, the software was EOL'ed. The "Pro" version was pulled immediately and users were given a week to download the Free version.

      Whatever Google plans to do with it, they don't want it available in its current form. This leads me to believe they want to kill it on Windows to use on ChromeOS.

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    4. Re:If it's like their other acquisitions by Zarel · · Score: 4, Informative

      You mean like happened with their acquisition of Writely? ;)

      (In case the reference is unclear; Writely is what became Google Docs Writer.)

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    5. Re:If it's like their other acquisitions by rumith · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or with any of their other acquisitions. Hell, they even rolled out Dodgeball [now Google Latitude] despite both of the original authors quitting Google, and that was the most screwed-up acquisition of theirs that I know of. Just take a look at the Wikipedia list: virtually all of the startups they bought are full of life and have become well-known products (except those that have been acquired quite recently or deal with things like security or server technology).
      Add to the equation the fact that Google sometimes open-sources the codebase for the original product they got with the startup (like Jaiku and Etherpad), and I'm left wonder what else do you want with them :)

    6. Re:If it's like their other acquisitions by drewhk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe they just want some patents for multitouch technologies.

    7. Re:If it's like their other acquisitions by NekSnappa · · Score: 2, Funny

      And then the little blonde girl said, "Hey this BumpTop! I can use this." As she navigates to the virtual front door and locks it just in time to keep the velociraptor out.

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  2. Why? by carp3_noct3m · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have always been fascinated with the "3d" desktop ever since, yes I'll admit it, Jurassic Park. That Irix program, I don't remember the name, but I have made it a point to try out all kinds of crazy 3d desktop apps, but I've found they are largely useless. They look cool often, but in general, they slow things down, eat resources, and usually just sit on top of the desktop instead of being shell replacements. What I've found more useful are the apps like rainmeter and those kinds of programs. Look at all the lifehacker posts of desktops, how many use 3d? Now I will say I tried bumptop and it was one of the better ones, especially the "mouse pattern" ability to control icons, but being a gamer I couldn't justify the extra resource usage. On a side note, one of the random weird programs that I shouldn't have liked but did was some old sonyu program that came on the vaios, that was all black and red and could organize things in a helix shape, I never could find it again, anyone remember that?

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    1. Re:Why? by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 5, Informative

      I had the pleasure of using the original FSN (That is the name) on Irix 6.5 on a beautiful SGI O2 R10k. A friend did 3D and video edition on two O2s for years, and he still has them (and they work beautifully).

      If you want http://fsv.sourceforge.net/ is a clone that works just fine in Ubuntu.

      Regarding 3D desktops, it's not the same concept, but Compiz is amazing (Yes, it's more than just nice effects :D )

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    2. Re:Why? by TheLink · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Being able to quickly link arbitrary tasks/windows with hotkeys would be more useful to me, as such I proposed this:
      http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121349
      http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/DesignersPlayground/KeyboardShortcuts

      Alt-tab allows quick switching between two active tasks, but is not as quick for more than two. In the end I gave up waiting, and actually wrote something to do that in Windows (my current workplace is a mainly Windows environment): http://sourceforge.net/projects/linkkey/

      It's handy enough for me whenever I need to work with more than two windows. It doesn't work with all app windows ( e.g. those using the ITaskList_Deleted property ). But I think I'm the only user anyway. I guess everyone else is happy enough with "alt-tab" and clicking.

      Lots of people get impressed with stuff like 10/GUI ( http://10gui.com/ ) but it would be slower if you actually need to use it for stuff, after all I don't see how it can even switch tasks faster than "alt tab". It's only good for Hollywood ;).

      Thought-based interfaces are already appearing, so what would be a better UI than all that flashy animated 3D crap would be the ability to link "thought macros" to arbitrary actions or objects/items.

      Then I would only have to think "command" (this would be a unique thought macro - not thinking of the word command), "recall", [thought macro of object follows] (object retrieved), "send to" [thought macro of Bob here], "confirm", "uncommand" (to get out of command mode).

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  3. Re:Wouldn't Chrome be more likely? by Aranykai · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My guess is they wanted the patents. We are likely looking at the future of multi touch on android as well as chrome. A lot of this seems to be mutli touch just for its own sake, but some of these seem genuinely useful.

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  4. Old fashioned... by Illogical+Spock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe I'm getting old (in fact, I AM getting old :-) ) but, seriously, I think all that touch interfaces are great... for very specific uses.

          Yes, to organize "piles" or to zoom in/out photos, maybe it's ok... But to everything else, my good old mouse is still my choice. Please note that I'm NOT talking about smartphones or othes small pocket devices, where touchscreen is a real improvement (althought the phisical keyboard in my Android phone is essential). But for the so-called "tablets"? To read a magazine or newspaper; to see some pictures, OK. But for everything else, please give me my full keyboard and my mouse and I'll be happy. What makes me see two very different products: the living-room-reading-and-playing-appliance; and the computer. Two different entities that will live together for a long time.

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  5. Re:Wouldn't Chrome be more likely? by TheSunborn · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is no reason to think it can't work on Android. Android don't have any problems running software written in C. You just have to use the ndk(Native development kit)

  6. You aren't imagining things.... by ShinmaWa · · Score: 2, Informative

    No.. you aren't imagining things. It WAS on Slashdot for about 10 minutes on Monday, specifically talking about the fact that immediately after Google bought them, the software was no longer available for sale and you could only download the free version until... well.. today.

    Then it suddenly disappeared, only to reappear just before the BumpTop download cutoff.

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  7. Re:Google? Ohhh...um...oh yeah! by El+Capitaine · · Score: 3, Informative
  8. Re:Wouldn't Chrome be more likely? by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It looks retarded. What is useful?

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  9. Bumptop = Microsoft Bob? by whackedspinach · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am always interested in any attempt to move away from the classic desktop UI design, as I'm not convinced it is the best interface paradigm. I tried to use BumpTop for a while though, and I just couldn't see the appeal. It was certainly a novel idea, but I thought it was about as useful as Microsoft Bob. I'll just stick with Rainmeter on Windows for now (not that Rainmeter is the easiest thing to use). I bet that this is a patent thing for Google, as I can't see them really designing Chrome OS or Android with this interface.

  10. Extending desktop metaphor, not rethinking it by DavidinAla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have no idea what Google plans for this software, so I might be surprised. With that said, though, it seems to me that this is the sort of software demo that impresses people who are already expert users of the current desktop metaphor. While that might include all of us who would read a site such as Slashdot, the VAST majority of people don't fall into that category. In my experience, most of them are already confused by the current file systems we use -- and software such as this simply takes the same metaphor and makes it more complicated. I think that what Apple is doing with the iPad (and iPhone) makes more sense. They're hiding the file system, which upsets and terrifies many geeks. Since we've been using this particular abstraction (and the ones that came with DOS-based systems before this), it's natural for us to think in terms of files. For most normal people, I suspect the approach that Apple is taking is more natural. Regardless of whether Apple has the right approach or not, though, I think the next-generation systems require a rethinking of the paradigm that we're comfortable with. It's time to make more of the OS transparent to the user in SOME way. Doing what BumpTop does merely adds bells and whistles (and a cool demo factor) to what already exists, IMO. I don't believe it will ever lead to anything that will be popular with people outside of geek circles.

  11. File piles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That demo makes using a computer look like a lot of work. I don't want a pile of files I need to sort through one at a time. I hope they get something valuable from the patents, but don't take too many design cues.

  12. Project Looking Glass by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wasn't Sun supposed to revolutionize the world with a similar 3D desktop back in 2004?

    http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/Desktop/lookingglass/

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  13. Re:Wouldn't Chrome be more likely? by Aranykai · · Score: 2, Informative

    Android DOES currently use multi touch, though there is little of it in the UI as theres very little need for it. Maps, photos and browser all support it fine on all modern handsets and several 1.6/1.5 devices as well.

    I could see this incorporated as you say, a file browser perhaps. The 3D media gallery included in newer releases is pretty great on its own and would merge with these "gestures" quite nicely.

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  14. Re:Wouldn't Chrome be more likely? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

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