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1 Molecule Computes Thousands of Times Faster Than a PC

alexhiggins732 writes with this tantalizing PopSci snippet: "A demo of a quantum calculation carried out by Japanese researchers has yielded some pretty mind-blowing results: a single molecule can perform a complex calculation thousands of times faster than a conventional computer. A proof-of-principle test run of a discrete Fourier transform — a common calculation using spectral analysis and data compression, among other things — performed with a single iodine molecule transpired very well, putting all the molecules in your PC to shame."

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  1. Computronium. by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think we are going to see a lot more of this sort of thing as humans get better and better at organizing matter into computing machines. The future is looking very very bright!

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  2. Re:This could be the breakthrough... by Polarina · · Score: 5, Informative

    This would more likely break Moore's Law since this molecule isn't a transistor.

  3. Need more computing power? by Luke+has+no+name · · Score: 4, Funny

    Add more table salt.

  4. Thats cheating by imsabbel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In a way. thats just the same as claiming a laser can caluclate a 2D FFT if you look at the frauenhofer diffraction of an aperture.
    Or that single candle can render better than any GPU by the way a room looks like when its illuminated by it.

    You just have to redefine a basic property of your system as "calculation"

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    1. Re:Thats cheating by Platinumrat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And that was exactly my final year Physics project, in 1984. Take a slide image, shine a laser through it, put that through a lense. The FFT would be formed at the focal point. We then could apply frequency filters (as another slide) and with another lense I could reconstruct the image (less filtered images). So with modern technology, ie LCD screens and cameras, you could dynamically FFT, filter and reconstruct moving images in real time.

    2. Re:Thats cheating by White+Flame · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, the current through the transistor is a binary representation of a value, which can be run through arbitrary programs on the same general hardware. This is just using analog resonances to create a dedicated mechanical "FFT device" of actual waveforms, not performing analyses on numeric data.

      To use a Car Analogy (TM), this is like saying I've invented a better driving simulation algorithm than Gran Turismo/Forza/rFactor/etc by building & driving a physical car.

    3. Re:Thats cheating by Artifakt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you define enough real world processes as calculation, you prove none of our laws of physics are the real ones.
            For just one example, Nature can't be storing irrational numbers as infinite series expressions (where would the infinitely large registers to store them be?). Another way to put this is, if some process in Nature counts as a calculation, Nature can't be doing that calculation using numbers such as pi or e, but rather finite approximations of such numbers, that allow results in finite time.
            (Otherwise, somewhere 'outside' the observable universe, there is an infinite amount of storage available for each number needed, and some sort of mechanism that handles those calculations in what looks like finite time to any point of view inside the universe - congratulations, you've just proved both the omnipresence and the omnipotence of God - probably not what you were aiming to do).
            There are other ways around this, such as claiming real world events are just approximations - but what does it mean to say that nature has approximated what would happen to that apple that just fell on Newton's noggin, if there had been an exact inverse square law of gravity inside our computationally finite universe? This sort of claim sounds suspiciously like Plato's cave. Is there an ideal law of gravity that is somehow more real than the law of gravity actually expressed in the universe?
            Alternately, maybe the problem is with claiming that some things are computations, just because they can be interpreted as approximate (usually analog) computations by an observer, that also has other knowledge necessary to parse the events as the results of computations. That's probably just as likely to lead to wild implications, but at least they are different wild implications.

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    4. Re:Thats cheating by spanky+the+monk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The universe is a pattern of vibrations/energy. Physical laws are just representations or patterns we observe that behave in a consistent way, which we have codified in some sort of language (usually maths). There are no "real" laws of physics, just abstract representations of observable phenomena. Some do a better job of representation than others.

      Nature doesn't "use" pi or e to do calculations. These symbols are just part of our codification of consistent patterns which we have abstracted and aren't real outside our heads. Nothing "calculates" the physical world, rather, we calculate how parts of it will behave. In other words physics and maths MIMIC the universe; the universe is certainly NOT based on maths or physics. What will calculate the calculator. Don't confuse abstractions with reality.

  5. Quantum computers aren't X times faster. by Vellmont · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I really hate it when people come up with the simple "Quantum computer 1000 times faster than conventional computer". It's not just overly simplistic, it's wrong.

    Quantum computers can turn some problems that require exponential time to solve into a polynomial time. So instead of taking 2^n time, it might take n^3 time. That's cannot in any realistic way be described as being "X times faster".

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  6. Let me be the first to say it by Traf-O-Data-Hater · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...one molecule ought to be enough for anybody!

  7. Re:This could be the breakthrough... by thms · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the top of my head, among these limitations are:
    • It won't solve any NP complete or even hard problems faster than a few orders of magnitude.
    • It is probabilistic, so you still need old fashioned silicon around it, and still all results will come with a P-value.
    • They need quite good cooling, as in liquid nitrogen.
  8. Show me a single molecule quantum device by BitZtream · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've never seen a quantum computing device smaller than the size of a small room, so I'm not really sure how fair it is to compare it to a PC.

    Really the PC doesn't even use full atoms for calculations, it uses electrons and electron holes in the atoms, and its at least 2000 times smaller than any quantum device I've seen.

    You don't really get to say its one molecule when its a device made up of a fuckton of molecules and you are comparing too it a PC which uses subatomic elements to actually do the work.

    You have a fast calculator ... the size of a room ... which I can put 2000 slower and easier to make calculators in and end up faster.

    Sure, eventually, they'll make it smaller and smaller, but your comparison is like saying using an f16 to deliver mail is faster than using a postal truck to deliver milk. Just because you make two statements that share a verb doesn't mean you've made a comparison thats in any way meaningful.

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  9. Re:This could be the breakthrough... by blair1q · · Score: 4, Informative

    Moore's law isn't about the tip of high-tech research. It's about the leading edge of profitable manufacturing of computational devices.

    I.e., until someone like Applied Materials or KLA Tencor is done installing a fab line for this process node, you can't count it as a data point in the history of the law.

  10. The need for speed by Wowsers · · Score: 4, Funny

    A one molecule computer faster than a PC. I find that hard to believe. My Asus Netbook is powered by one "atom", and it's still dog slow.

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  11. Re:This could be the breakthrough... by tagno25 · · Score: 4, Funny

    So we can make improbability machines and then in 10 years an infinite improbability drive?

  12. Re:This could be the breakthrough... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Probably.

  13. Re:This could be the breakthrough... by Interoperable · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bah! People need to stop complaining when it turns out that an important incremental advance in the field of quantum computing isn't already a commercially viable quantum computer that's being integrated into a chip for release next week. There won't be commercially viable products for many years to come. What is needed many, many incremental improvements in a broad variety of disciplines. None of the proof-of-principle experiments around today are attempting to be demonstrations of viable technology. This experiment demonstrates that am arbitrary quantum state can be deterministically written to the vibrational modes of a molecule, allowed to evolve and be read out by projective measurement. It is an important result because it helps open a new avenue of attack: vibrational energy levels in molecules.

    The experiment is a beast that requires expensive, ultra-fast lasers, pulse shaping optics, and a molecular jet. It won't be integrated into PCI expansion card anytime soon but the fact that it is possible to coherently prepare superpositions of vibrational modes in molecules is interesting in its own right and is potentially important for quantum computation. Another decade or three of fundamental research and well funded grad students (ha) are going to be required before we can expect a commercial application.

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  14. Re:Finally! by sabernet · · Score: 3, Funny

    It would be like a whole fraction of a millimeter across! Careful! You'll step on the datacenter!

  15. Re:To understand the implications of Quantum Compu by mestar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One time pads already are unbreakable.

  16. Re:This could be the breakthrough... by mestar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think the real question should be how many measurements per second can you do.

    This is what standard computes do. To get the next step, you have to measure/read the previous state. So you have just zero or one, because that is the easiest to measure. Then you measure in gigahertz.

    How many measurements per second can quantum computers do?

  17. Re:This could be the breakthrough... by grcumb · · Score: 4, Funny

    So we can make improbability machines and then in 10 years an infinite improbability drive?

    Magic 8 Ball sez: UNCERTAIN

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  18. Re:This could be the breakthrough... by blankinthefill · · Score: 3, Informative

    Agree 100%! I mean, the first transistor was invented in 1947, and the first integrated circuit wasn't introduced until 1959, and the integrated circuit took even more years to make it into computing devices... and then even more years to evolve to a complexity that allowed the creation of the PC. And the science and engineering involved in those was kid stuff in comparison to many of these inventions. We're not even to the point of the transistor in quantum computing... This is probably more closely related to the Babbage's analytical engine!

  19. Re:This could be the breakthrough... by marcansoft · · Score: 3, Informative

    As I understand it, there's a trade-off between uncertainty and speed in quantum computing. You can get results faster, but you'll have a higher probability that your machine returns 2+2=5.

    The same goes for conventional computing. No computer is error-free, and bit errors can and do happen. There are unsolved/unsolvable problems in electronics like metastability that always come with a P-value which you can make as large as you want by trading off speed.

    Conventional computers are tuned such that the error rates are small enough that people can live with them (e.g. once a few months for crappy consumer hardware, or hopefully once every decade or more for proper servers). The question is whether quantum computing will still be faster after being tuned to similar error rates. There are also tricks you can use, such as ECCs and other types of parity for conventional computers. For example, on quantum computing you can have several computers running the same problem and then require that they agree on the result.

  20. In defense of Moore's law by Iamthecheese · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It was indeed a mere observation of conjuncture. That said, it has been an extraordinarily useful one in the form of a challenge to humankind. Without it we would not have progressed the way we have. Intel is using Moore's law as a road map, forcing other companies *coughAMDcough* to innovate just to keep up. And that is why we have the enormous speeds available today. So we have a prediction that shaped the future. Why bother? Because our dreams shape our world.

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