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Judge Orders Gizmodo Search Warrant Unsealed

gyrogeerloose writes "The same judge who issued the warrant to search Gizmodo editor Jason Chen's apartment has now ordered it unsealed, ruling against the San Mateo County district attorney's office which had argued that unsealing the documents may compromise the investigation." You can read the entire affidavit here (PDF). It has a detailed description of the police investigation that led to the seizure of Chen's computers. It turns out Steve Jobs personally requested that the phone be returned, prompting Gizmodo's Brian Lam to try negotiating for a public acknowledgment that the phone was real. Apple was tipped off to the man who found/stole the prototype by his roommate.

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  1. Re:Hrmm by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sure getting the house raided and the guy near arrested tops that.

    Not according to Steve Jobs ;-)

    She did it to avoid getting caught up in the rest of this sht. Seems like she was the only one who thought that this could come back to bite them in the ass. She was right.

  2. Re:Roommates by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I prefer not to live with people who have no problem with "finding" other peoples' property. You have to invest in big locks.

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  3. Public acknowledgement? by AdmiralXyz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It turns out Steve Jobs personally requested that the phone be returned, prompting Gizmodo's Brian Lam to try negotiating for a public acknowledgment that the phone was real.

    Let me make sure I understand this: these guys were in possession of stolen property, and they tried to negotiate conditions for its return? Gizmodo, you run a decent gadget blog, but Jesus Christ you need better lawyers. You are about to be one-two punched by the law, and you have no one to blame but yourselves.

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    1. Re:Public acknowledgement? by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's was a big fucking Apple logo on the back

      Oh, well, if there was an Apple logo on the back!

      You heard him, all you millions of people who think you own an iPhone, or iPod, or Mac Book Pro... if it's got "a big fucking Apple logo on the back", it's reasonable to assume it belongs to Apple.

    2. Re:Public acknowledgement? by dangitman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Before you can call it stolen property you need to confirm that it is actually something that was owned by the person claiming it was stolen. I don't care how over inflated Jobs's sense of self important is, if he were to call me and ask me to give him something I'd sure as hell want proof that it was his to begin with.

      This had already been established. If you read the actual email, Gizmodo was asking for more information about the phone and their production of it:

      Hey Steve, this email chain is off record on my side.

      I understand the position you’re in, and I want to help, but it conflicts with my own responsibilities to give the phone back without any confirmation that its real, from apple, officially.

      Something like that — from you or apple legal — is a big story, that would make up for giving the phone back right away. If the phone disappears without a story to explain why it went away, and the proof it went to apple, it hurts our business. And our reputation. People will say this is a coordinated leak, etc.

      I get that it would hurt sales to say this is the next iphone. I have no interest in hurting sales. That does nothing to help Gizmodo or me.

      Maybe Apple can say it’s a lost phone, but not one that you’ve confirmed for production — that it is merely a test unit of sorts. Otherwise, it just falls to apple legal, which serves the same purpose of confirmation. I don’t want that either.

      This is not an innocent request from somebody who wants to honestly return the phone.

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  4. Re:Pretty .. by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A young man is in a shit load of legal problems because the cops think A STUPID FUCKING CELL PHONE is important. This STUPID FUCKING CELL PHONE is more important than the crimes going on in their area.

    Whilst you and your hoodie friends might not realise it, stealing a cell phone *is* a crime.

  5. Re:Hrmm by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... and because they cooperated over and above the requirements of the actual search warrant, at other locations.

    Read the part where the cops were allowed a warrantless entry into 247 Hillview. Dumb move. Hogan, by cooperating with the cops, ended up getting his own cell phone seized. He also ended up implicating himself. No warrant, no search. No statements unless legal counsel is present, who will tell you to SHUT YOUR F*ING MOUTH! Because nothing you say can be used to help you, but it can and will be used against you, as this case demonstrates.

    Not to mention that you can't use a digital camera to "make a copy of the phone". It's a digital camera, not a replicator.

  6. That's just irrelevant. by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Before you can call it stolen property you need to confirm that it is actually something that was owned by the person claiming it was stolen.

    No. If the circumstances would have led a reasonable person to conclude that the item they were buying did not belong to the seller, nor that the seller was an agent of its owner, then they were buying stolen goods. Whether the owner has claimed it was stolen is just irrelevant--the owner doesn't even need to be aware that they've lost the item.

    Think about it. You go on a backpacking trip to Europe, and your uncle the drunk stays at your house in the meantime. Some dude steals your car and abandons it at an isolated road, and your uncle doesn't even notice. Another guy finds your car, finds identification that ties the car to you in the glovebox, and drives it to your home to return it to you. But when they get there, your drunken uncle tells him that you don't have a car, and to fuck off. Does the guy now get to sell your car?

    In the end, Gizmodo reported that they bought a phone for $5,000 from a guy that they knew neither owned it nor was an agent of the owner. That's basically an admission of a felony.

  7. Re:Pretty .. by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No one stole anything.

    I'm afraid you don't know the law, not to mention morals. If you take a cell phone that doesn't belong to you from a bar, and neither return it to the person/company you know it belongs to, nor to the police, you have stolen it.

    A worker left it laying around and from the stories I read, there was an attempt to return it but Apple was too stupid to take it.

    There is no evidence been presented of ANY attempt to return it. But even if there was a phone call to Apple tech support, and Apple tech support knew nothing about the phone, that doesn't make it the "finder's" property to sell. Many other reasonable avenues were open to return it to the owner or the police, none were taken. Instead it was sold as stolen property.

    I'll ignore the "hoodie" part.

    Don't ignore it. If you want to behave like you have no respect for the law, and back a thief rather than the victim, then the name fits. You could have "wannabe gangsta" instead if you prefer.

    Let's say that is was stolen even though is WAS NOT, but let's say it was - do you really think all of this police and court attention is warranted for a goddamn cell phone?

    Yes. This is a serious theft of a valuable item.

    Over people who really need police help?

    People who've had valuable items stolen from them are not deserving of the police investigating?

    PRIORITES, bud.

    Come back when you've grown a sense of morality.

  8. A phone? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That seems like a lot of police work, DA work, etc for a piece of shit phone. People will cry about IP and lost sales. Bull shit. Steve Jobs says people will stop buying iPhones because they now know a new one is in development? Are you fucking kidding me Steve? You guys release a new model every fucking year. Only a dipshit retard wouldn't know that July is new iPhone month.

    My neighbor beats her daughter and locks her in a closet and we call the Police, children's services, and they blow us the fuck off. To busy with real crimes like a missing iPhone.

    Sad. Get a fucking grip people.

  9. Are you in second grade? by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IIRC, they did figure out who the guy was, talked to him, and gave it back. Kind of undermines the whole theft thing, doesn't it.

    First of all, I haven't seen anything that says that Gizmodo or Hogan ever talked to Powell. Citation, please.

    But that's not my main point. The main point is that, god, I feel like we're talking to second-graders here. Here's some very elementary moral rules that we adults teach kids in, um, elementary school:

    • If somebody loses something, you find it, and you are able to return it, you should do so promptly.
    • You shouldn't use something that's not yours unless you have permission from the owner.
    • However, there's a few exceptions: it's ok to make minimal use of somebody else's lost item if it's necessary to return it to them. If the item is perishable, it's ok to sell it and then give the owner the proceeds (the law in California actually states this).

    This is all part of basic respect for other people's property. People who follow those rules don't run into trouble with the law when they find other people's lost property. Such people, finding a lost cellphone, would look through the contents of the phone to try and identify the owner or somebody who knows the owner, and then try to return within a couple of days. If they were unsuccesful in their attempts to return it, they wouldn't claim it for their own before consulting the law. What they wouldn't do is start using the phone for their own personal calls for a whole month before returning it, because that's wrong.

    If Hogan and Gizmodo had followed those elementary rules, well, they'd be clear. Hogan might have started like that on night 1 (using the phone to find out the name of the guy who lost it), but it's becoming pretty clear by this point that as he realized the value of the prototype, he stopped following those rules, and his priority became how to benefit from somebody else's property, not how to return it to them.