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Chemical Cocktail Can Keep a Heart Viable 10 Days, Outside the Body

nj_peeps writes "Harvard professor Hemant Thatte has developed a cocktail of 21 chemical compounds that he calls Somah, derived from the Sanskrit for 'ambrosia of rejuvenation.' Using Somah, Thatte and his team have accomplished some amazing feats with pig hearts. They can keep the organ viable for transplant up to 10 days after harvest — far longer than the four-hour limit seen in hospitals today. Not only that, but using low temperatures and Somah, they were able to take a pig heart that was removed post mortem and get it to beat 24 hours later in the lab."

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  1. Re:Good morning... by Bieeanda · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's Fronken-shteen, you insensitive clod!

  2. As a biologist let me say... by wizardforce · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Neato. If this could be applied to human hearts, this could significantly open the options organ recipients have to save their lives. Perhaps even expand what kind of medical procedures that could be done on the human heart that may be limited by how long the heart can be kept viable outside the body.

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    1. Re:As a biologist let me say... by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Neato. If this could be applied to human hearts, this could significantly open the options organ recipients have to save their lives.

      I'm more interested in how this will effect the international market for organs.
      Usually you have to go there, or the donor has to come here.
      But if this translates to human physiology, organ trafficking will become a real problem.

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    2. Re:As a biologist let me say... by MartinSchou · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And faster cars make it easier for criminals to get away from crime scenes.
      And cash make it easier for criminals to hide their tracks.
      And RFID embedded into the underside of the skull at birth would make it easier to track down criminals later in life.

      A lot of the technology we have available or will develop in the foreseeable future has the potential to be used in bad ways. That doesn't mean we should stop developing them.

    3. Re:As a biologist let me say... by misexistentialist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't want to see rich countries buying organs from poorer countries, especially if those organs belonged to someone who died from a poverty related illness. But they can make a law against that.

      If someone dies from poverty all the more reason to give a windfall to their family so that maybe they won't have to die too. "Making a law" would drive up prices, but mostly for the middlemen, who as criminals would be more ruthless in exploiting donors or in creatively sourcing organs through murder.

  3. Re:Great. What's in it? by pclminion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why would the gender of the heart donors matter?

    The question is, why wouldn't it? Do you know? I don't. Are you saying scientists should be less observant, record fewer details, ignore more facts? You might as well ask "Why bother mentioning that they were pig hearts, what would it matter?"

    Are you offended at the obvious sexism inherent in the selection of two female pig hearts? Bothered by the fact that reality may not be politically correct?

  4. SO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    How does this affect bacon?

    Because that's what's really important.

    Bacon.

  5. THEY SAVED HITLER'S BRAIN! by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 5, Funny

    As Stephen King once claimed, "I seem monstrous to some, but I have the heart of a child.

    I keep it in a jar, on my desk..."

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  6. Re:Another overblown statements in TFS today... by shaitand · · Score: 2, Funny

    "As a benchmark, we should strive towards the ability to reconstruct hot chicks only from part of their arm! ;)"

    I'm with you. They have two arms, so you could potentially end up with two hot chicks!

  7. What about chicken hearts? by sharkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    The chicken heart was kept alive, in a laboratory in a vat. Special solution: half blood, half sodium-salycilate.

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  8. Re:Great. What's in it? by Zebai · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I would imagine commercial interests? They may want to keep such things hidden from other research teams until they are themselves published or secured patents?

    One can also never rule out intentional hype prior to proven facts. Like this liquid i have here with 500 compounds in it, I neglect to mention all the rocks and dirt i just threw into a glass of water.

  9. Here's what's in it by Yergle143 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the paper it's a modification of something called GALA solution.
    Compenent mmol/L g/L
    Distilled water, L 1.00
    Calcium chloride 1.30 0.191
    Potassium chloride 7.00 0.522
    Potassium phosphate (monobasic) 0.44 0.060
    Magnesium chloride (hexahydrate) 0.50 0.101
    Magnesium sulfate (heptahydrate) 0.50 0.123
    Sodium chloride 125.00 7.31
    Sodium bicarbonate 5.00 0.420
    Sodium phosphate (dibasic; heptahydrate) 0.19 0.05
    d-Glucose 11.00 1.982
    Glutathione (reduced) 1.50 0.461
    Ascorbic acid 1.00 0.176
    l-Arginine 5.00 1.073
    l-Citrulline malate 1.00 0.175
    Adenosine 2.00 0.534
    Creatine orotate 0.50 0.274
    Creatine monohydrate 2.00 0.298
    l-Carnosine 10.00 2.26
    l-Carnitine 10.00 2.00
    Dichloroacetate 0.50 0.075
    Insulin 10 mg/mL, mL/L 1.00
    pH is adjusted to 7.5 with sodium bicarbonate or Tris-hydroxymethyl aminomethane at desired temperature.

    Bunch of salts.
    These aren't complex proteinaceous molecules. I am interested in the presence of dichloroacetate because that was the anti-cancer molecule reported
    by slashdot just yesterday.
    http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/05/13/2117203

    Now all you hackers planning to preserve human hearts don't you use this formula without citing the good Doctor Thatte.
    Please mod me up for my chemical knowhow

    1. Re:Here's what's in it by LightPhoenix7 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A bunch of salts... and amino acids, a sugar, a tripeptide, a full on protein, a nucleotide precursor, and organic acid. Not to mention a specific pH and temperature. I suggest improving your chemical know-how before karma whoring. As well all know, karma is a bitch.

    2. Re:Here's what's in it by Yergle143 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Gosh, so sorry. Please please forgive me. It's just that whenever I don't have to assign the resonance frequencies of 5200 atoms in a molecule that wants to crash out if you look at it wrong I consider the molecule somewhat simple. 1200 MW to me is something you can leave on the shelf. If you notice the parent asked about proteins and so I too went in to see if there was some kinase, antibody, polymeric polyprotein, siRNA etc. that was the "secret". Obviously not. This mix is pretty complicated but it's basically a buffered media; far less complicated than that being used to grow mammalian cell culture on the lab bench next to mine. I hope this ends up doing a lot of good. I love simple things. I wish that the answer to cancer was something as completely trivial as dichloroacetate. And it is noticing that constituent in this solution and remembering the /. story yesterday I thought I might bring it to everyone's attention. So please forgive me. I promise that with the Karma for which I've long labored I will henceforth act responsibly. Meanwhile I'm kind of busy so if you could dive into the literature and find out for me if the presence of dichloroacetate is causing the heart tissue in question to switch from glycolysis to oxidative phosphorylation I would be very interested. Cheers.

    3. Re:Here's what's in it by Arancaytar · · Score: 3, Funny

      So... how many people are going to be hospitalized with poisoning symptoms after mixing large quantities of this in the hopes of drinking the elixir of immortality?

    4. Re:Here's what's in it by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 4, Informative

      Another NMR guy? What are you working on? I share your pain - did way too much work on PrP for my own sanity, while I was still in academia. Not much fun when 95% precipitates during one experiment... Anyway, you are right, that medium is actually astonishing simple. As for the dichloroacetate, it usually stimulates the PDC, so it should stimulate the aerobic metabolism. It has been shown to protect tissue against ischemic damage (Peeling, et al. Protective effect of dichloroacetate in a rat model of forebrain ischemia. Neuroscience Letters. 1996; 208: 21-24) - so I guess this is its main role in keeping the heart alive in this setup.

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  10. At last the secret fluid from reanimator by physburn · · Score: 2, Insightful
  11. Hydrogen Sulfide by harley78 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Along with research done by Mark Roth with H2S, this could save lots of people.

    1. Re:Hydrogen Sulfide by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 3, Informative

      Along with research done by Mark Roth with H2S, this could save lots of people.

      What's with the mods today? What exactly is redundant about this? Mark Roth is working about suspended animation using controlled oxygen depletion with H2S and CO, work which has shown quite some promise in various animal models. Interesting stuff that is completely on topic. The main problem with suspended animation, be it of whole organisms or of tissues, is oxygen damage. Mark Roth depletes the oxygen in a controlled manner, the work cited in TFA is based on adding dichloroacetate, which has been shown to prevent ischemic damage in tissue. Not sure how the two would complement each other, as I am not much of a metabolism guy. Anyway, someone mod up the parent, that downmod is undeserved.

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  12. Re:Finally! by Bill+Currie · · Score: 2, Funny

    If it's liquid, it's drinkable. Now, the consequences of drinking it are another matter...

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  13. Re:Another overblown statements in TFS today... by phantomcircuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You should have n^2 hot chicks! Just rinse and repeat.

  14. Bejing Cocktail by dadelbunts · · Score: 2, Funny

    I always told everyone Crank 2 was based on factual events.

  15. Re:Ringer's solution? by Dahamma · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ringer's solution is just Na, Cl, K, Ca in water. Oh, and lactate. So, the only commonality is 4 ions. And not even the same sugar. No, it's nowhere NEAR a tweaked Ringer's solution...

  16. Re:Great. What's in it? by Valacosa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow, way to read into my post, dude.

    Something most Slashdotters probably know is that science journalism is very derivative. Since a lot of journalists don't know squat about science, most of them just end up regurgitating stuff. Sometimes random irrelevant facts are added, sometimes important information is stripped out. Mentioning that both hearts are from sows without mentioning why seems strange. There could be a reason why, or it could have just been an extraneous fact that was included..

    Now, the sentence from TFA ("Thatte and his group harvested two female pig hearts and placed them in two different containers.") is very similar to a sentence in a cited source here ("The researchers harvested hearts from female pigs, stored them in one of the two solutions, then biopsied them at several points over the next four hours.") Was there an original story somewhere that said why sow hearts were preferable, or was it just a random detail that someone added without context? Unfortunately, I can't access what appears to be the original paper at the moment to find out either way.

    I have been paid to work in a research lab. I have also been paid to work for a newspaper. The interaction between science and the media fascinates me. And in my experience, there's a lot of truth to this comic.

    Why would the gender of the heart donors matter?

    The question is, why wouldn't it? Do you know? I don't.

    Yeah, I'm hoping for a response from someone who does know. Thanks for making gross, incorrect assumptions about me, though.

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