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Steve Jobs Says PC Folks' World Is Slipping Away

theodp writes "Provoked by an iPad ad promising a 'revolution,' Valleywag's Ryan Tate fired off a late-night missive to Steve Jobs. Jobs responded, and the two engaged in an after-midnight e-mail debate over lockdown, Cocoa vs. Flash, battery life, and whether 'freedom from porn' is a bug or a feature. 'The times they are a changin',' quipped Jobs, 'and some traditional PC folks feel like their world is slipping away. It is.' Tate was unswayed by the Apple CEO's reality distortion field, but did come away impressed by Jobs' willingness to spar one-on-one over his beliefs — at two in the morning on a weekend."

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  1. From: "PC Folk" by s0litaire · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    to: "Steve Jobs"

    Your "Reality Distortion Field ©®" is failing and is slipping away.

    *Note* Side effects of the failure may cause "Liver damage"...

    Cordially Yours,

    Reality...

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  2. Re:Benefits by Darkness404 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    And for the elevnty-hojillionth freaking time, MORE IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER! Not EVERYONE needs to do EVERYTHING! Plenty of people CAN get by with a very limited device.

    Like who? Show me someone who never uses Flash, never uses a printer, has nearly infinite cash, etc. The iPad fits the needs of no one as a the primary device Jobs thinks it should be. Its not a terrible secondary device, but Jobs has this misguided opinion that it should fit everyone's needs for everything. It doesn't. It could easily fit more people's needs if Jobs lived in reality. But eventually I suppose rationality will take hold and Apple will take credit for "inventing" printing/Flash/etc. in OS 5...

    Look at the original iPod. Kinda pricey, Mac only, FireWire only--wow, look at crazy Apple, they're selling something that doesn't even work with all the computers they've sold in the last few years! But they added Windows support, and USB, and photos, and videos, and then they made them in different sizes, and according to Wikipedia they've sold over a QUARTER BILLION of them in less than ten years. So you'll have to excuse Mr. Jobs if he doesn't trip over himself to listen to your advice or anyone else's.

    Look at Steve Jobs own policies. After all wasn't everyone happy with web apps? Wasn't web 2.0 and AJAX good enough? Oh and what about multi-tasking, copy-and-paste all things that Jobs had said no one needed but eventually it came. Same thing with Video iPod.

    Jobs doesn't know what he is talking about, thankfully not everyone at Apple is as delusional as he is.

    Geeks like Woz but the other Steve is plenty smart too. If you've got a little time, read this 1996 interview with Steve Jobs. Look at how much he got right: "The most exciting things happening today are objects and the Web. The Web is exciting for two reasons. One, it's ubiquitous. There will be Web dial tone everywhere. [emphasis added] And anything that's ubiquitous gets interesting. Two, I don't think Microsoft will figure out a way to own it."

    Um, it was 1996, -everyone- thought the web was the "next big thing" (hence the dot-com bubble). Yeah, he predicted that the web would be everywhere, no that wasn't an original thought.

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  3. Re:Sounds to me... by The+Hatchet · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    If I were in his position I would do the same thing. However I would not say the same things. When you own a powerful company, and want to make censorship not just for your company, but make it a ubiquitous, good thing. That being the case, I hope he dies in a fire. The control he takes over everything and everyone he comes in contact with is not just terrible, but terrifying. I hope he dies in a fire.

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  4. Re:Freedom from porn. by pgmrdlm · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Apple is exactly like Microsoft. The only difference is the amount of money you pay for the product. Apple costs more. Great, works for me. All for a company making money. Won't be my money though. I want quality for my money, and I do not consider apple a quality product. They are on par with Microsoft. Shit products, shit attitudes, and asshole CEO's.

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  5. Re:Freedom from porn. by jcombel · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    i can't (won't) take the time to map out all the details, so i'll rely on you to make my points for me:

    wtf? How does free software equate to software anarchy?

    tell me you have noticed that the FOSS movement is disorganized, free of any sort of recognized governing, directing body or group? ...pretty anarchist, no?

    How does free software equate to sex free computing?

    tell me you have noticed that the freetard coders in the three cubes surrounding you are incredibly unsexed?

    How does software anarchy equate to sex free computing?

    tell me you have noticed that if a=b, and a=c, then b=c?

  6. Re:Sounds to me... by Mike610544 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    And until OSX, Apple didn't even have minimize/maximize

    They STILL don't have maximize. That green button makes the windows as big as the OS thinks it should be.

    The worst part about that is that the response from Mac people is: "You don't really want to do that. You're thinking in primitive Windows-one-app-at-a-time terms. Once you're enlightened to the Mac philosophy you'll 'get it'."

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  7. Re:Steve held his own... by LingNoi · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Yes, Steve Job's is a god. Everyone at Apple is totally worthless and Steve has all the vision and drive to keep them going. I already know your song and dance apple fanboy no need to repeat it over and over.