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Food Bloggers Giving Restaurant Owners Heartburn

crimeandpunishment writes "Call it the invasion of the pasta paparazzi. Food bloggers are so excited about sharing their experiences, especially at trendy, popular restaurants, that they're too busy taking pictures and video to enjoy the food when it's at its best. Many signature dishes come out at the perfect temperature ... take a few minutes to capture what it looks like, and your palate won't be nearly as pleased. Some restaurants have taken the step of banning cameras, or at least have established a 'no flash' rule. Others just want to make sure enthusiastic reviewers are still enthused after eating their food."

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  1. And once again by Cheezymadman · · Score: 1, Insightful

    People fail to realize that the point of food is to enjoy the taste. It doesn't matter how it looks, as long as it tastes good.

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    1. Re:And once again by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually how it looks is just as important as taste and smell. When you eat a meal, the first part of your body that perceives the meal is your eyes. Most people will not eat food that looks unappetizing. Next is your nose (which strongly correlates with your taste buds). Many more people will not eat food that smells unappetizing. Only then does taste play a role. Almost no one will eat food that tastes unappetizing.

      Want citations? Look 'em up yourself.

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    2. Re:And once again by FoolishOwl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, the point of food is to maintain health and strength. Whether you enjoy eating it is secondary to that.

    3. Re:And once again by T+Murphy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's food the basic resource, and food the product of the art of cooking. If you are going out to a restaurant, you are paying for the latter kind of food. In developed countries, your definition rarely applies, as shown by many people choosing food for taste and ignoring the health part.

    4. Re:And once again by Twinbee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Somehow I think the hunter gatherers would prefer the big macs too.

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    5. Re:And once again by FoolishOwl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To be honest, I keep flirting with taking a contrarian position, and insisting that people should stop worrying about whether food tastes good, much less whether it looks good. There seem to be so many problems with people eating unhealthy food, or eating too much food, and wasting food, and so on, that I sometimes wish people would just take a utilitarian attitude towards food.

    6. Re:And once again by __aasqbs9791 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have no sense of smell, you insensitive clod! *

      *That's not a joke.

    7. Re:And once again by GWBasic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People fail to realize that the point of food is to enjoy the taste. It doesn't matter how it looks, as long as it tastes good.

      Well, that might be if you're going to a cafeteria or buying packaged food. At elite gourmet restaurants, it's a combination of taste, appearance, and atmosphere. Seriously, would you want to eat a "gourmet" meal served under harsh florescent lighting that looked ugly?

    8. Re:And once again by thrawn_aj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It should be, "It doesn't matter how it looks, if it doesn't taste good". If it does taste good, better looks will enhance the taste (for the reasons you mentioned). But (unless you're a food snob), a shitty tasting dish will not taste better just because it's all dressed up (sort of like the deeply disturbed troll who also replied to GP o.O).

    9. Re:And once again by bmo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You are obviously someone who has never had a good meal in his life.

      Where is this epicurean desert that you live in that I can avoid it?

      Given the choice between some good labor intensive peasant food (I'm Polish) and "utilitarian food," I'm going to be loading the plate up with some pierogis thanks.

      Saying that eating should only be for nutrition is like saying sex should only be for reproduction. I reject your outlook. It is without enjoyment. It is spartan for the sole reason of utility. It is a dour, rainy day in late November.

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    10. Re:And once again by Wildclaw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nothing like the ambiance of the mountains, day after day of dehydrated crud for food to make anything different a tasty feast fit for the gods.

      The taste of food is intrinsically linked to how much your body needs it. And it even goes down in more detail as to what kind of food your body needs. It is fascinating really. Especially how quickly the taste adepts once you get the needed mineral/vitamin into your system.

    11. Re:And once again by jhjjhj · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Rich people worry about how dinner is presented

      Middle class worry if it's tasty.

      Poor people worry if there is enough.

  2. Re:Perfect temperature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    True. This is a load of gibberish. When you have a table of 4, with 4 different entrees, do you really think the chef/cook/etc got it perfectly right so as to have all 4 entrees (and sides) done at the perfect temperature simultaneously? Really?

    No, three of them sat under a heat lamp for a minute, two, or five, while the last entree (and accompaniments) were getting finished.

    Writer has never worked in a restaurant kitchen.

  3. Disturbing the other guests by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps the real problem is that all the flash lights disturb the other guests in the restaurant.

    1. Re:Disturbing the other guests by Trepidity · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, I'd be pretty annoyed if I were at some high end-restaurant and someone next to me was setting up a tripod with flash to photograph his food. Taking a photo with your iPhone or whatever is fine, if a bit gauche, but setting up a whole production isn't really something people with decent manners should do in someone else's establishment, at least unless they've cleared it ahead of time.

  4. Minutes? by shoemakc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...a few minutes? What is this, the 1840's?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_photography

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  5. Re:Perfect temperature by Arker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even if they did, they are expected to hold their taste long enough for them to be, you know, eaten?

    Which, if you do it right, can take some time. Divide into bite-sized portions, not too big, convey to mouth, chew *thoroughly*, then and only then swallow. Then take a sip of your drink, probably engage in conversation for a minute, before repeating.

    If taking a minute at the beginning of the meal to take pictures degrades the taste, then the taste will be degraded horribly by the time the diner finishes the plate. And people who take a moment to close their eyes and thank $deity for their food would be ruining it too. It's a bunch of nonsense.

    Flash photography can be distracting and annoying, however.

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  6. People really do this? by theJML · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't know about anyone else, but when I have to wait at a restaurant to get seated and then wait for food, the only thing on my mind when that food appears is eating it. Sure I'll talk about how good it tastes and how great it looks, but that's gonna happen while eating it. I'm not going to go "Sweet! That's EXACTLY what I wanted and I'm starving, oh it smells so good I'm just going to whip out my iPhone and start blogging about it." No, I'm hungry gosh darn it, GET IN MY BELLY!

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  7. Re:Perfect temperature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I always though geeks were into cooking? First impressions matter. The first bite cements a flavor memory, that sticks with you as your food cools. Miss the window of opportunity and a great dish just becomes good or even meh. This is also why good food is generally served in small portions. Its like your first sip of coffee in the morning, if you waited tell it was cold or left it in the pot to burn you might just spit it out. But if you had a few drinks before waiting tell its past its prime you might just finish off that last gulp or two without any problem. Same thing.

  8. Re:Perfect temperature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    People are weird as hell.

    No exceptions.

  9. Re:Perfect temperature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Snobs who eat things like the above mentioned dish and call it "an experience" are assholes and the world would probably be a better place if they didn't have a blog.

  10. Re:Perfect temperature by techno-vampire · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Writer has never worked in a restaurant kitchen.

    Obviously. First, a good restaurant chef will time things so that they get done as close to each other as possible. Second, some of the dishes will come off of the stove or out of the oven a bit hotter than the perfect temperature and need a minute or two to cool down; generally, those are plated first, so that by the time everything else is done, they're Just Right.

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  11. Re:Tacky? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would be against the flash, that would only annoy those around you. It's possible to take good pictures without flash, and take pictures pretty quickly. I suggest that food bloggers learn how to not use flash, for one, for the annoyance, another, flash distorts the appearance of the surroundings with light that's only there for a fraction of a second, it's not the restaurant's normal lighting. It helps to learn how to be discrete too. Have the camera set up already, when no one is looking, take it out of the bag, snap a few quick shots and put it away before anyone notices.

  12. Re:Perfect temperature by zippthorne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look, if you think $12 a plate (e.g. Applebees) is high end, you're not going to the kind of restaurant where timing is critical (although applebees does still make an attempt to come out at the same time...). Not coincidentally, you're also not going to the kind of restaurant where people would consider taking a picture of the food.

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  13. Re:Tacky? by Trepidity · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It sounds like some of the photographers in question are avoiding flash by setting up tripods, which somehow also seems pretty tacky to do in a restaurant, at least unless you're an official photographer brought in by the restaurant.

  14. Re:You are all missing the point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    That could be said of bloggers in general. I'm interested in the opinions of experts and scholars, not the average person. The ease of entry into blogging is what puts it at the forefront of the common man information revolution, or whatever. But I'm not interested in the facile/banal musings of halfwits with the delusion of insight.

    Of course, I'm putting my opinion out there right now... but I haven't put it out in my own, ostensibly unique little forum, as though I'm some formidable intellectual force.

  15. Re:You are all missing the point. by dzfoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Wait, do you seriously blog about how your roommate's cooking is not as good as yours, mostly because of your "level of dedication", being a culinary arts student?

    Talk about braggarts and pretentious pricks.

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  16. Re:Perhaps the real reason by dzfoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh, you're one of those, who equate quantity with quality.

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  17. Re:Perhaps the real reason by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh, you're one of those, who equate quantity with quality.

    Serving a portion size unable to sate a common appetite misses the point of food and eating. Plating skill and preparation are distinguishing features on top of eating, unless one is attending an explicit 'tasting'. Or else it's an underhanded way to upsell dessert.

    $10/oz meals that aren't using very expensive ingredients are for the Stockholm diners.

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