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Copernicus Reburied As Hero
CasualFriday writes "Mikolaj Kopernik, a.k.a. Nicolaus Copernicus, the 16th-century astronomer whose findings were condemned by the Roman Catholic Church as heretical, was reburied by Polish priests as a hero on Saturday, nearly 500 years after he was laid to rest in an unmarked grave. On Saturday, his remains were blessed with holy water by some of Poland's highest-ranking clerics before an honor guard ceremoniously carried his coffin through the imposing red brick cathedral and lowered it back into the same spot where part of his skull and other bones were found in 2005."
That won't change the fact that a significant part of Polish society are still backwards and bigots, much like the corresponding part of the US society. One Copernicus rehabilitated half a millenium late does not a 21th century society make. Support reason!
Ezekiel 23:20
You can see how little scruple companies like the Catholic church have, when they dig up your remains to bury them again, just to make themselves look (not be, remember, Pope Kiddiefiddler) good...
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
Bunch of hypocrites...
Agreed. And the embryonic research cannot compare, embryo is a human being, and as such it IS the juristiction of the Church to say exploiting it and killing is unethical - it's not a question of mere scientific progress, just like Nazi experiments weren't. And if one thinks embryos/Jews are less human that won't make them so, nor said experiments acceptable. Nor should we or the Church tolerate it.
So, in 500 years, when everyone involved is dead they can (a) do something about the paedophiles in their ranks and (b) disband their ranks because their whole game is a worldwide money-making scam.
I'll wait with baited breath.
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Since heaven is a fantasy
That sound like a falsifiable statement to me. Please propose your experiment so that we may finally put this heaven thing to rest.
Benign?
So, you are a huge organization with lots of political power, and you have a history of murder and torture and censorship, you are responsible for the overpopulation and aids problem we have right now since you told people that using condoms was bad, and you accomplished all of that with money stolen from people both directly and through government support across 2000 years, mostly by telling them an schizophrenic story about a jewish carpenter that was his own father. But you don't censor science that much anymore, so, you are suddenly GOOD?
That's what I call low standards.
All religions are shit. They attempt to create yet another division across humans so that we can continue killing each other over trivial shit, and then they profit from it. Nothing good ever came out of them, and never will. The sooner we get rid of them, the better. And that kind of religious apology you are doing is dangerous, to say the least. Just because the evil empire doesn't target your particular group anymore doesn't mean it's not an evil empire.
WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
Yeah, I blame my parents for sending me to Catholic school - I asked them to instead send me to Neverland. At least afterwards I'd get to go on the fun fair.
I just got this wonderful image of Copernicus taking a dump in the Pope's big hat while he's making his way to heaven after being trapped in hell for 500 years.
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I don't have mod points to undo the unfair "troll", so I'll just say "well put".
What changed under Obama? Nothing Good
Science and religion are always mutually compatible. Science relies on the idea that things happen today like they did yesterday and like they will happen in the future. Once something can manipulate things outside the laws of nature, science cannot verify that such a thing happened. In fact, if science could validate it, it would become scientific, not religious.
That said, science can confirm events that occurred in religious texts.
Trying to overreach science's influence, like Richard Dawkins, leads to extremists pushing back trying to get evolution taken out of schools. If both sides were just honest about science's limitations, there wouldn't be any problem.
Lastly, why is it those who are theoretically the best educated vis-a-vis science those who get caught up on the "6 days to create the universe" problem. Isn't time different for different observers, etc, etc?
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