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Patents On Synthetic Life "Extremely Damaging"

An anonymous reader writes "Pioneer and veteran of genomics Professor John Sulston is extremely concerned about the patent applications on the first synthetic life-form. The patents were filed by the Venter Institute following the announcement of the first life-form to have a synthetic genome. Sulston claims the patent is excessively broad and would stifle research and development in the field by creating an effective monopoly on synthetic life and related molecular techniques. Prof. Sulston had previously locked horns ten years ago with Dr. Craig Venter over intellectual property issues surrounding the human genome project. Fortunately, Sulston won the last round and the HGP is freely accessible — Venter had wanted to charge for access, just as he now wishes to make 'synthetic life' proprietary."

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  1. Time to go.. by drewhk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .. and patent myself before it is too late!

  2. Prior Art by Mattskimo · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd better hurry up and spit in a bag and post it to myself as evidence of prior art.

  3. Re:This ain't a patent troll by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sometimes the depth of human greed astonishes me. This is something which, if openly available to the right people and if they were allowed to work on/improve on it as they saw fit, could literally change almost everything.

    Keeping it locked behind a patent is greed at its worst (or finest, depending on which side you are on.) I'm all for getting paid for your ideas, but some things (like, oh I don't know, synthetic life) should belong to the entire human race, not Joe McBob who can only see lawsuits and dollar signs.

  4. Re:I couldn't think of a car analogy by master5o1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's like a company that tries to patent an object that has four wheels, a steering wheel, a wind shield and an engine.

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  5. Re:This ain't a patent troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Except patents were designed to protect specific objects, tools, and machines with specific functions--like the iPhone, Droid, cotton gin, etc. not fundamental biochemical interactions. If they're building a specific, non-cognizant organism for a specific purpose, ok; if they're going after the whole concept of synthetic life, no.

  6. World domination. Finally. by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So if you study steel, all steel structures should be yours? And if you study the world...

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    1. Re:World domination. Finally. by couchslug · · Score: 3, Funny

      "So if you study steel, all steel structures should be yours? And if you study the world..."

      I'll study poontang, thank you very much!

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  7. Re:This ain't a patent troll by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sorry, I should have been more clear...I meant that the guy should be keeping his patent scope limited to exactly what he did, as opposed to making it so broad as to cover synthetic life in general.

    My bad -_-;;

  8. Don't you understand? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Craig Venter's dream is to use the tools of science to create the world's first true patent troll. Not a mere shell corporation; but a living, breathing creature, equal parts mythological tusks and contemporary instinct for ruthless litigation. Natural habitat? The Texas rocket-dockets...

  9. Patents by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We should start calling them "Letters of Marque", so people will understand their purpose better.

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  10. Re:Unfortunately for him by asukasoryu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sexual reproduction has a limited input genome. Nature cannot create anything that does not already exist in the parents, save deviation due to mutation. The idea behind synthetic life is that you can produce any genome and therefore create lifeforms which could not occur naturally. The issue is whether or not you can patent a specific genome so that others cannot use it freely.

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  11. Oh it's fine. by Aphoxema · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not so worried about this. Monsanto already showed exceptional responsibility with their GM patents on 99.5% of the crops our food, clothes, textiles, and medicines come from. Let's take it to the next step.

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  12. Re:This ain't a patent troll by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I propose a viewpoint. As opposed to keeping discussion specific to individual patents or details of a certain case, we should talk about nuking the whole patent system entirely. It is a net loss. It is an archaic system based on naíve economic ideas. It is time to euthanize it.

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  13. Re:This ain't a patent troll by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Venter Institute have been working on this for 15 years. Allowing them to get a temporary monopoly to use or licence elements of the fruit of their R&D so they can get a return on their investment is exactly what the patent system was intended for.

    No, the intent of the system is clearly written in the United States Constitution, and was to advance the arts and sciences. I.e. a consideration for the [b]people[/b], not the inventor.

    The time limitations on patents and copyrights were deliberately kept short in order to force the inventor or artist to create new work instead of living on the profits reaped from old works.

  14. Re:This ain't a patent troll by arth1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    if there was no chance for a profit, it is unlikely that Venter would have spend the last 15 years and shitloads of money on the project.

    Correct.
    Which would have given others with less money more of a chance to work on this, without feeling it would be fruitless to compete against the big pockets and risk being sued into oblivion.

  15. Re:This ain't a patent troll by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is like saying that without greed, communism would work :)

    In other words, the patent scheme is broken at it's core.

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  16. Re:This ain't a patent troll by Locklin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course, the thousands of people who spent the prior 50 years developing the *methodologies* that he used, will be locked out of synthetic life until their children are middle aged. Despite romantic ideas, invention is not a solitary operation. He may have been the first to the finish line using "shitloads of money," but patents will do nothing but slow down progress. The world will start working with synthetic life in a quarter century, whereas without Venter and patents, the we would have synthetic life in <5 (at the rate of progress in molecular biology).

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