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Is Wired's App Really the Future of Magazines?

MBCook writes "Interfacelab has put up a review of Wired's new iPad app, and declared, 'The only real differentiation between the Wired application and a [1990s] multimedia CD-ROM is the delivery mechanism.' While providing little interactivity other than a fancy page-flip, the application is made of XML and images, including two for the text of each page in portrait and landscape mode. This seems to be why the application is 500MB. The article suggests this was done to get the app out quickly after Flash was officially vetoed by Steve Jobs."

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  1. PDF!!! by GrahamCox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Haven't they heard of PDF? I mean, it's not as if the iPad doesn't have PDF written into its DNA from top to bottom, and that the format was pretty much invented for the very purpose to which they are not putting it here.

    Jobs may have declared war on Adobe's Flash format but Adobe's PDF format is a whole other story.

  2. 500MB??!! by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Insane!

    Each full page is a giant image...

    Ah ok... Don't want any copying and pasting...

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  3. Re:Obviously... by Shados · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Indeed. The only real innovation in term of e-readers since the first handheld ones (ala Palm Pilot or similar) has been e-ink, and with color ones coming out soonish, this is seriously the way to go. You don't read several hundred pages in one sitting on an Ipad or similar devices, its just painful. And a book shouldn't need to be recharged every couple of days. E-ink readers and their month-long battery life (if you have a kindle, remember to turn off wifi =P) is the way to go.

  4. Re:again with the flash? by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Informative

    To be fair, it does appear to be related: Adobe built this app in Flash for Wired, intending to use the beta CS5's iPhone compilation. Once Apple banned that, they did a fairly hasty port, which appears to still use some sort of auto-compilation from InDesign.

  5. Re:Well... by MrHanky · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And the novelty factor lasted for ... four hours?

  6. iPad review or Wired App review? by brit74 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is this a review of the iPad as a magazine-reader ("Is This Really the Future of Magazines"), or a review of the Wired magazine App on the iPad? Judging from the title, it sounds like the former. I'd recommend looking at some other magazines or newspapers on the iPad if you're going to judge it as an eReader. For example, here's the USA Today App for the iPad (jump to 0:50) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5nJVtLygOM

  7. Separate content from presentation? by nurbles · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I had to cancel my subscription to WiReD because they have never, ever learned anything about readability and my eyesight has gotten to the point where I need a very bright light and a magnifying glass to read WiReD. I have no problem with books (paperback or hardcover) or most other magazines or newspapers, because for all of them, content is more important than style -- something that has NEVER been true at WiReD.

    I mention this because it is a perfect case for providing the magazine content in a format who's style the user may customize -- if they can understand that some people are actually trying to read their stuff and not just saying, "Wow! That's looks really cool. I wonder what it says?" It sounds like they did everything they could to avoid giving the user the ability to manipulate the presentation of their content, which seems to be almost the exact opposite of XML's purpose. I seriously hope that WiReD (and similar content providers) can get back to providing interesting/meaningful/useful content and restraining their style tinkering to the margins, where it belongs.

    I hope that the iPad version of the magazine at least allowed the reader to zoom and pan around the page, but knowing WiReD, they probably even disabled that because their strange sense of style demands that we suffer, um, I mean, view the entire page as a whole only.

    1. Re:Separate content from presentation? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're too old to be reading Wired. You're not their target customer.

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    2. Re:Separate content from presentation? by Angst+Badger · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear God, yes. If they ever do a Hellraiser movie in which one of the cenobites is a graphic designer, he'll drag people to hell using issues of Wired.

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  8. Re:Obviously... by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have one, and reading on it does in fact give me a headache.

    If one could control the font and turn off antialiasing, perhaps it would be better.

  9. Re:Well... by mellon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nope, more like ten minutes. I got it because people were crowing about how great it was, but it was mostly ads, and some fairly lame interactivity that could have been done better in Javascript on a web page. If this is the future of magazines, they can keep it. Don't waste your money.

    Oh, plus, they warn you that they're tracking your viewing. I guess it was nice of them to warn us, but part of the Brave New magazine experience I am *not* looking for is a little mini- Conde Nast- panopticon.

  10. Re:Well... by martin-boundary · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have you ever bought the print edition of Wired? Half of it is ads already. They were simply trying to replicate the print edition feel :)

  11. The Thrill Wears Off When the Math Kicks In by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I get dead-tree Wired for $10 a year; less than a buck an issue. So for the price of more than 5 such issues, I should buy a single issue with a glorified shovel-ware interface?

    Hmmm, let me think about that for a second. OK, no.

    Bad enough Wired never grew up out of its hipster typeface fetish, rendering many of the paper pages barely legible; I shudder to imagine what it looks like on an iPad.

  12. Why we shouldn't care about ipad-based magazines by Bysshe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is the iPad (and similar devices) the future of magazines? Short Answer: No

    Long Answer: Just do the numbers. Time Magazine has a circulation of 3.3million. Which is 1% of the US population roughly. Now if the same ratio holds true that Time would get a 1% market share of ipad users, that would make for currently... 10,000+/- ipad subscriptions. Even if the ratio is skewed totally out of proportion... Its simply not interesting from a business perspective to shift your content strategy to targeting ipads anytime soon. It will take a lot more than a few million ipads and ipad type devices sold for magazines to shift focus.

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  13. An App to distribute a bunch of text and images? by Punto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't the iphone have a web browser?

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  14. Re:Well... by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least now when you flip the iPad up-side-down, subscription cards don't come falling out.

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  15. Re:HTML? by masmullin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    people wont pay for HTML. They think that HTML should be free. People will pay for an "app" because OHHHH its an APP Ohhhhhh!

  16. Re:Obviously... by thms · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the eyesight myth

    That is not a complete myth, you do indeed develop shortsightedness from reading from an iPad or anything else held at an arms length. Though develop means you still have to be growing, i.e. a kid. So sending them outside to play instead of sitting in front of a screen does have its merits.

    The study I remember was comparing kids in Israel. Some grew up in highly religious communities where they spend a lot of time reading the Torah, the other half grew up in more secular communities. The result was that those who read more were more likely to become short sighted. There is truth to the bespectacled intellectual stereotype.

    IIRC the proposed mechanism is that the signal quality which the neurons receive influence the elongation of the eye, and focusing on near objects somehow makes them grow longer. Terrible control mechanism for the correct eye size, typical evolutionary hackjob :)

  17. Re:Well... by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Get the past issues and a cheap micrometer.
    Graph the health of the US tech sector based on the thickness and ads packed into years of Wired.
    The 2010 issues are thin :)

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  18. Re:Well... by Minwee · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least now when you flip the iPad up-side-down, subscription cards don't come falling out.

    Don't worry, I'm sure there's an app for that.

  19. Re:Well... by cgenman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd say at least then they know what content you're interested in, but they already know that from the website.

    Really, they need to re-invent presenting text-based information in a way that takes advantage of the iPad's strengths above and beyond HTML. For the life of me, I can't figure out what those might be. You could do walkthroughs of 3d models and spaces, but nobody wants to generate those resources. You could create interactive systems that replicate what the article is talking about, but nobody wants to generate those resources (and could be done in flash anyway). Any sort of discussion system is better suited for HTML.

    Really, the only way this will be anything other than an additional way of selling a dead-tree edition or a PDF of the website is if they broke the structure entirely and went with some sort of whacked-out information metaphor spacing similar articles near eachother in 3D space, floated related back-issue information nearby, and possibly had unicorns that crapped screen readable serif fonts. They don't seem to be willing to take the risk making a jump into a radical new way of browsing information, so the actual use of the program is a bit moot.

  20. Re:Well... by icebraining · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, the person reading over his shoulder will be billed $1.25 - he will be fined with illegal distribution of copyrighted content.

  21. Re:again with the flash? by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do you need a special application for "magazines"?

    It's a form of DRM..

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  22. Do magazines have a future in the first place? by Angst+Badger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It was always pretty rare for a magazine to be worth reading from cover to cover. Arguably, editors try to avoid that, since a magazine all of whose contents are interesting to its readers is going to have a very small and specialized subscriber base. Instead, editors try to appeal to a wider group, with the end result being that any given reader is only going to care about a fraction of the content. And this model worked pretty well as long as publication was capital-intensive. The web pretty much put an end to that.

    Obviously, it depends on what you're interested in, but nowadays you can find some or all of the kind of content that interests you for free, so unless you're after something highly specialized, you don't have to purchase access at all, much less buy a bunch of content that you aren't interested in to get to the small fraction that does interest you. The old magazine model no longer has much relevance. If so many people hadn't been exposed to magazines before the rise of the web, it would probably never occur to anyone to create online "magazines".

    In the long run, someone is going to figure out how to aggregate related content, probably with a high degree of personalization, in such a way that both the aggregator and the content creator get to expose readers to ads and thereby make money. This is basically already Google's approach, and they're making money hand over fist, but they're the ultimate generalists. The more specialized territory is still up for grabs, though it appears likely that specialized aggregators are more likely to evolve from blogs and wikis than search engines.

    But the magazine? It existed only because of a resource scarcity that no longer exists. Trying to make the magazine work in the age of the Internet is like trying to keep a ferry business alive after the bridge has been built.

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  23. This is the world I live in by tyhockett · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So, I'm a long time prepress guy converted into a web designer and ultimately an online application developer. I make my living at a printing company that makes money putting ink on paper, and am always caught up in discussions and planning sessions where we prognosticate about what new electronic development is going to put a dent in the magazine business.

    Lots -- and I mean lots -- of industry experts have been predicting that the Apple tablet would be the beginning of the end of print. Of course, this has been predicted many times before: CD-ROMs were going to do it, then the web, then web-based digital editions, and now the iPad. But this time, the talk was at a fever pitch. Bosacks alerts were coming out months before the mainstream media picked up on the initial iPad hype. Lots of people thought this would be the one.

    And, it's not really, is it? And I didn't really think it would be either. When I try to imagine the electronic invention that replaces the utility of ink on paper (especially for magazines or other non-time-sensitive publishing), I can't really come up with an idea of what that might be. The online digital editions and iPad apps are cute -- even cool -- but they wouldn't stop me from throwing 128 pages of bound paper into a briefcase on a travel day. Besides, portable electronics are expensive and precarious. They need cases and screen protectors. They don't roll up. They aren't disposable if you spill your coffee on them.

    So, what's it going to be? What will the technology look like that actually makes publishers stop printing on paper altogether? I really don't know.

    1. Re:This is the world I live in by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      they wouldn't stop me from throwing 128 pages of bound paper into a briefcase on a travel day

      And the guy sitting beside you on the plane will have every book ever published, entire magazine collections, and the means to search them, clip them, and annotate them on his tablet. I hope you don't have far to travel, because 86 of those 128 pages you are lugging around are advertisements.

  24. Re:Why we shouldn't care about ipad-based magazine by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your numbers assume that every person is the same as any other from an advertiser's point of view and that simply isn't true. This is just a guess, but I bet the iPad owning demographic is very desirable for advertisers. These are people who have disposable income and they aren't afraid to dispose of it.

    Those 10,000 iPad readers may be worth much, much more than the same number of print readers.

    What really matters in this game is where advertisers are willing to buy ads.

  25. Download 500MB? by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What idiots. They're shipping an "application" that consists of over 4,000 image files and some XML. You have to download 500MB of stuff to read the magazine. How long is that going to take?

    Then there's the content problem. Wired, at this point, is basically a product catalog. Yet they didn't put a shopping cart system in the online version. That's just dumb. The demographic that buys both iPads and Wired would definitely click on "buy now" buttons.