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Study Claims Cellphones Implicated In Bee Loss
krou passes along word from Telegraph.co.uk that researchers from Chandigarh's Punjab University claim that they have proven mobile phones could explain Colony Collapse Disorder. "They set up a controlled experiment in Punjab earlier this year comparing the behavior and productivity of bees in two hives — one fitted with two mobile telephones which were powered on for two 15-minute sessions per day for three months. The other had dummy models installed. After three months the researchers recorded a dramatic decline in the size of the hive fitted with the mobile phone, a significant reduction in the number of eggs laid by the queen bee. The bees also stopped producing honey. The queen bee in the 'mobile' hive produced fewer than half of those created by her counterpart in the normal hive. They also found a dramatic decline in the number of worker bees returning to the hive after collecting pollen." We've talked about the honeybee problem before. Today's article quotes a British bee specialist who dismisses talk of cellphone radiation having anything to do with the problem.
"But this does show that cell phones can disrupt living systems"? No, it fucking doesn't, you scientifically illiterate cunt. This shows absolutely nothing. But keep adjusting that tinfoil hat.
But the only way America could get that manpower is to let even more mexican immigrants in.
No, America would have all the manpower needed, if we ended most welfare. Children 18 and under should be fed, as well as children 18 - ~25 who are attending college, and so should the elderly. Let's empty our prison cells, our ghetto projects, and everyplace else we are warehousing deadbeat do-nothing bums, and put them to work.
Yeah, the idea is HIGHLY unpopular - but I say that people who produce nothing, should consume nothing. All able bodied persons who are not otherwise gainfully employed can start pollinating the strawberries, peaches, apples, and all the other crops that we enjoy. Let me emphasize - ALL able bodied people. And, that will include a lot of people that we have classified as "handicapped". It doesn't take a mental giant to do a few hours of menial labor out in the field each week, nor does it take a lot of stamina.
Maybe we can reduce the number of tons of fat that Americans are carrying around with them at the same time!
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
I find it an enduring source of puzzlement that people are so willing to dismiss documents on the flimsiest of excuses without bothering to read them while at the same time complaining that nobody is able to provide any evidence.
Ha ha!
If you want evidence, you'll have to climb out of your foxhole and do some reading, champ.
Unless you are utterly without a brain, you have no-doubt heard of a little thing known as "conflict of interest". You're not going to get any documents explaining the reality of cell-phone radiation to you because enormously wealthy companies and governments with vested interests don't want you to know. We've seen it happen many times before, most notably with the tobacco industry and we KNOW it's happening here. Further, we KNOW that scientific academia is corrupt and unreliable. Just last month we had a story on Slashdot decrying just such a travesty. Do you REALLY think that the military and telecommunications industry would allow civilian journals to lay it all out in the open without a fight? Don't be such a naive twit.
But despite that, both those links are filled with peer-reviewed works. The research isn't the hard part. It's the publishing and promotion of the data which is hard to do, and it's compounded by the fact that people like you refuse to read anything but the corporate pap which passes for science these days.
But it's your assessment of Becker which is jaw-droppingly naive. Sorry, but it is. It's like saying, "Well, if Santa doesn't exist, then where do all the presents come from? There are presents under the tree, so obviously your book which claims Santa is make-believe must be false, therefore I will not read it." That's the circular avoidance logic of a five year-old.
As for Cross Currents...Becker's (and your) major problem linking RF to disease is that people are exposed to far stronger electromagnetic effects by going outside. Clothing and hats block high-energy EM like UV and visible light, but don't do anything against the RF coming from the sun. Why didn't that kill us all when we first descended from the trees?
If you want to know why that comment is hopelessly off-base, you'll need to start accepting and reading the documents which contain the answers instead of hiding from them. The answers are amazing, sensible, based on hard science, and anybody who is honest in his love for science should be happy to expose himself to that knowledge. Those who don't are fakes. They don't love science. They love being told what to think and they are afraid of being laughed at by the retarded herd if they dare read anything deemed 'uncool'. Most people are so traumatized by Jr. High School that they wind up mentally stunted and never really advance beyond the age of about 12.
So read before judging. Start with Becker; his work is seminal.
Of course, I know you won't. I've run into your type so many times before; Those who demand proof but refuse to read it when it is handed to them, coming up with every excuse under the sun to avoid actually having to look at or process strings of simple text. But more astonishing are the times when people will actually re-boot after seeing some evidence which illustrates that they are wrong. I've watched this happen a few times, (it's rare, because people are so good at not looking when they don't want to), but when a piece of new knowledge does by some miracle become unavoidably placed in a person's awareness, I've seen expressions of fear, shock, re-booting, and then the actual blanking out of the memory the very next day.
It's amazing how fragile and cowardly people are.
-FL
The scariest thing is that you would have to explain that, do people not have common sense to think about what they have been told? Is critical thinking dead?
Yes. YOUR critical thinking is dead. But the scariest thing is that you are so entirely certain you are right without actually having touched any of the available research. How can you possibly assume knowledge when you haven't got any?
First of all. . , yes, we've been exposed to EM since WWII. And we've been affected by it since then as well. Do you remember what it was like before WWII? No? Then you really don't know what you are talking about, do you? I however, have done the research, so I know that there are some significant differences.
Secondly. . , The Sun emits white noise. It doesn't emit steady frequencies which are modulated down to the 10 to 500 hz range where the human nervous system responds biologically to such low power signals in a variety of peculiar and repeatedly observed ways.
Oh. You didn't consider that, did you?
What else didn't you consider?
How about before putting your foot in your mouth again, or letting your Ego stomp all over your keyboard, you do some research rather than watching TV and pretending you know what you are talking about. Hint: The herd is nearly always wrong, and herd logic is what you are tapping into with your broken examples.
I gave two links. I'd start with Becker if I were you.
-FL
Isn't it ironic that you guys campaign all day for science but when a scientific study says your gadgets are harmful you scream bloody murder?