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Google Reportedly Ditching Windows

Reader awyeah notes a Financial Times report that Google is ditching the use of Windows internally. Some blogs have picked up the FT piece but so far there isn't any other independent reporting of the claim, which is based on comments from anonymous Googlers. One indication of possibly hasty reporting is the note that Google "employs more than 10,000 workers internationally," whereas it's easy enough to find official word that the total exceeds 20,000. "The directive to move to other operating systems began in earnest in January, after Google's Chinese operations were hacked, and could effectively end the use of Windows at Google. ... 'We're not doing any more Windows. It is a security effort,' said one Google employee. ... New hires are now given the option of using Apple's Mac computers or PCs running the Linux operating system. 'Linux is open source and we feel good about it,' said one employee. 'Microsoft we don't feel so good about.' ... Employees wanting to stay on Windows required clearance from 'quite senior levels,' one employee said. 'Getting a new Windows machine now requires CIO approval,' said another employee."

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  1. Re:Flamebait by Daengbo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Aaaand ... after reading TFA, it confirms ChromeOS and dogfooding:

    Employees said it was also an effort to run the company on Google’s own products, including its forthcoming Chrome OS, which will compete with Windows. “A lot of it is an effort to run things on Google product,” the employee said. “They want to run things on Chrome.”

  2. Skepticism warranted? by Fished · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is the Financial Times, not the New York Post, Mac OS Rumors, or some random blog. This reminds me of when the Wall Street Journal was reporting that Apple was going to Intel, and Slashdot said, "Never going to happen." Of course, it did happen. Folks, when a major newspaper like the FT, WSJ, or New York Times reports something, it's probably true. Which makes this very interesting. I think the most interesting aspect will probably be that feature parity for things like Google Chrome will probably benefit--no longer will Chrome, or Google Toolbar, or Google Earth lag behind on Linux and Mac, because Google employees are using Linux or Macs, because now Google employees will be using Linux and Macs.

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  3. Re:IBM is headed that way too by metamatic · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is a new Symphony, entirely unrelated to the old product, build on top of Eclipse technologies and forked OpenOffice code.

    http://symphony.lotus.com/

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  4. Re:MACS???!?! by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Informative

    OS X has all the nice overflows, poor to no memory protection, problems with users ect that most consumer quality OS face.

    Actually not really. It's not as prone to buffer overruns as C++ or C would be, thanks to Objective-C used to write most apps.

    Also with Snow Leopard, it has fairly good memory protection at this point.

    And the users are more partitioned off, because there are no programs that demand you run as admin the way you find Windows programs that flake out... not to mention no open ports by default.

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  5. Re:I want to see the long term results of this... by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, the number of unnecessary and undesirable services automatically deployed with Windows operating systems is quite profound. The automatic sharing of the C: drive as \\hostname\c$\, for example, has been nearly impossible to turn off for even a competent systems administrator without ripping out parts of the operating system you may want.

    Shall we review the security risks of the almost mandatory use of dynamic DNS associated with Active Directory? Or the very poor security models of overburdening the Kerberos server underlying Active Directory with graphical and non-security related tools which have _nothing_ to do with that absolutely critical security service, yet are mandatory with the Windows "Server" releases required to run an Active Directory server? Or the denial of service attacks possible against an Internet-exposed Exchange server because it simply cannot handle a reasonable amount of direct SMTP traffic, especially broadly distributed spambots?

    The Linux boxes simply do not run all these services and have all these vulnerabilities when they come out of the box because they don't _activate_ such services without giving the owner a patch to patch their systems. And users are not forced to run "Internet Explorer", that festering cesspool of security vulnerabilities, because someone locked the software update mechanism to a web browser with too many "features" to possibly secure.

  6. Re:something wrong with TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    windows key + r
    runas /u:domain\user application.exe
    return or enter key
    when prompted enter your password

    use a- prefix accounts within a group on the domain for local administrator access.
    use normal accounts for login and day to day.

    I don't care about the OS "fighting" but make sure you look at all the details first.

  7. Bullshit by itslifejimbutnotaswe · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bullshit. I do a great deal of C/C++, R, C# development on XP and very, very rarely need to run anything as administrator. I can't even remember the last time I had to runas Admin other than installing software.

  8. Re:Financials by dbIII · · Score: 4, Informative

    Very hard to find SMALL BUSINESS accounting programs that do not require Windows OS

    Do you see now why that won't be a problem for Google?

  9. Re:MACS???!?! by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's because the hackers want a Mac, not some lame old Windows box.

    Sorry, but the contestants do not decide the order in which they attack the target computers. They are allocated timeslots randomly to each system. The Mac fails first because they haven't implemented some of the basic security precautions that the other operating systems have.

  10. Re:something wrong with TFA by Zenzilla · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can right click on any app in XP and choose "Run As". Same as sudo.

  11. Re:Flamebait by Yoozer · · Score: 5, Informative

    It works just great as a DAW controller. You project all kinds of knobs and sliders on the screen and use TouchOSC or something to control your gear or draw your automation with. Surely a lot more useful than a dedicated controller which does nothing else at all besides controlling, and which has a fixed surface. Ever heard of the Jazzmutant Lemur? Like that - only cheaper.

  12. Re:Flamebait by vonFinkelstien · · Score: 4, Informative

    Keynote and Pages replace 99.99% of what most office workers due in PowerPoint and Word. Plus, they're more intuitive and have better graphics capabilities.

  13. Re:Flamebait by beelsebob · · Score: 4, Informative

    No need for online things like zimbra or gmail, the built in Mail, iCal and Address Book apps all have exchange integration, and between the three of them, cover all the functionality that Outlook does.

  14. The Backstroke by fwarren · · Score: 4, Informative

    We'll see how long it takes Google to start frantically doing the back-stroke.

    I don't think we will see Google doing a backstroke anytime soon. When you think about how badly Google was compromised, and what someone could do to them if they are every compromised like that again. What are their options.

    1. Find a way to live without Microsoft and all the software that will ONLY run in a MS Environment.

    or

    2. Give to it, take the easy way, run MS software and just expect that you can survive any system breach no matter how badly you are compromised.

    If it takes 5 years and a billion dollars, I am sure it will be worth it to Google in the long run. Also note. Google is not "talking" about switching. They are not trying to get a better price from Microsoft. They just quietly started to mandate that MS is not an option any longer.

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