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EU To Monitor All Internet Searches
Xemu writes "The European Parliament is issuing a written declaration about the need to set up an early warning system to combat sexual child abuse. However, the substance of the declaration is to extend the EU data retention directive to search engines, so that all searches done on for example Google will be monitored. If you are a citizen concerned about the right to privacy and freedom on the Internet, you can help by sending e-mail to the MEPs from your country and explaining the issue to them."
It's the only way to actually do much of anything about child sexual abuse.
Because pedos are totally going to Google "kiddy porn downloads".
In retrospect it was a good idea that Freenet was developed to combat censorship and government control of the internet before it was needed, and before governments could take steps to stop it. I think Freenet, and other similar networks, will become increasingly useful as governments try to clamp down on the Internet.
I used it recently, and it seemed to work well but I wish more development took place on it, and others would fork it to try their own takes on it and/or experiment with different ideas.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
If the EU doesn't uphold this, it's members will.
In the eastern parts of Europe you had to be careful on the phone.
The West smiled when it saw the vast data collection systems and rows of tape.
Now you have to be careful what you type into Bing, Yahoo, Google ect.
Interesting to see the line about "based on the existing system for food safety" [laws].
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1243625/Businessman-Mirko-Fischer-sues-British-Airwars-treating-men-like-perverts.html Being seated next to a child on a plane also makes one suspect of being a kiddiefiddler. Come on guys, really?
The stories and info posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only fools would take it as fact.
Pedophiles use children for their own self-serving purposes, and now the government wants in on the "fun". They're using these poor children to achieve the government's broader political goals, getting away with things they otherwise could not. "Think of the children", the oldest trick in the book since the Victorian era.
Perverts and legislators -- it's like they're made for each other.
"In prison you just have to shut your eyes and take it. Here you have to shut your eyes and give it."
CP is just an excuse, not the real thing they want to look for.
93rd rule of Slashdot: No matter how obvious my sarcasm is, my comment will be taken seriously by someone.
"We need to monitor your internet searches. You know, to prevent pedophilia."
"But I don't want anyone's internet searches monitored without a warrant to monitor them."
"SO YOU'RE PRO-CHILD MOLESTATION AND YOU WANT GRAPHIC SEXUAL DEPICTIONS OF THEM ON THE INTERNET?!"
"What in the hell? That's not what I said at all!"
"Maybe we should be monitoring YOU, pervert."
No https://www.startpage.com/ might, but if its ordinary HTTP, it can be detected by the ISP which is honestly more of a threat than Google logging searches.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
Will they ban it?
Fuck the EU and fuck the children. Fuck the assholes who use "child porn" as an excuse for every thing!!!
When has Google Trends ever listed a single Kiddie Porn search string?
If Kiddie porn was such a problem on search engines, surely it would be right up there on #1 of Google Trends right?
Give me a break.
The child fucking boogieman is not real. Its not the children that are getting fucked... ITS YOU.
Burn your governments down.
if she had of been a He, they'd be in jail right now, probably getting molested. oh the irony
If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
Without government control of the internet the same search logs would be kept and used against you by the RIAA. Who do you think is "more bad"? Which one do you trust less? Do you honestly think that without government regulation you'd be able to withstand the onslaught of megacorps (or whatever power structure would exit in the absence of said regulations)?
Internet searches aren't child molestation. Child molestation is a sex act. So the EU must monitor every sex act to prevent child molestation. Otherwise it's just wasting everyone's time while the real killers run free!
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make install -not war
What's really scary is that there are people out there who actually believe exactly what you said. In their disturbed little minds, if everybody in the world could just have kind, happy thoughts all the time, then we would all get along.
These self-proclaimed pacifists literally become violent if you don't have the right kind of happy thoughts.
Pacifists scare me.
All someone interested in breaking this system at a basic level needs to do is to gain access to some popular server to put some code (plain HTML img tags, or javascript if site is vulnerable) that will automatically do searches based on those "monitored" search terms when a user-agent accesses it. This will incriminate all innocent parties that browse those "infected" pages (as if something like is bad), which naturally flood the monitoring tools with garbage.
Please direct all bug reports to
Or you can just search for your MEP's name along terms related to paedophilia. And then do it again, and again...
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
What, you thought keeping the government out of net neutrality would also keep them out of this sort of crap???
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Laws are horrible moral guides, moral guides make even worse laws.
right, MEP's obviously sign things (and vote for things) they haven't read (let along understood), cause you know this is politics, who cares about contents
So basically, all the pedophiles (who don't spend thier time doing google searches for 'child porn', I'd hasten a bet) are unaffected, while all the people who search for information on the subject (reporters, worried mothers, hell, anyone looking for information on a subject, which we should be allowed to do in the modern world) gets monitored. Seriously. Great plan.
-- Lattyware (www.lattyware.co.uk)
Kill catholics (a good idea in general)
Why do you want to kill me? What have I ever done to harm you? Last time I checked, I was spending large amounts of my time and money fighting hard to protect people's privacy and freedom of expression. Now you're calling for my death?
Pirate Party UK
First of all, RIAA is American - we're discussing the EU here. Obviously, there are similar institutions in Europe, so the remark is still relevant.
Who says that we are not going to a situation where both the government and the record industry and all kinds of other organizations will control internet logs of everyone? ISP will log it, and distribute it.
They all will find a valid reason to protect the very important interests of something really important (like "Children" or "The Economy" or "Safety").
Anyone who will object to this monitoring of the internet is obviously either a Terrorist, a Child Molester or a Communist.
(I strongly believe that you can't argue with such points, which is why the discussion should be shifted away from single problems, and should instead be about the internet or even information in general).
On a side note, this is an initiative by some members of the European parliament. They sell it to the public as a urgent thing to stop child abuse. The word privacy isn't mentioned anywhere.
Why don't you monitor all the post and telephones too? I mean, someone could write about CP, or even talk about it ... I mean, c'mon! What is this half ass shit. I want everything monitored. I want cameras in my room and on my shitter too!
And I hope you screen the magazines I ordered too, please!
And while we are at it, please make laws so I am not allowed to be in the same bus or train as kids. Ever. Better I have to keep a distance of 500m.
We can do it. we can fight CP. Yeeeah!
"Freiheit ist immer auch die Freiheit des Andersdenkenden" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1871 - 1919
...does that mean I'm looking for child porn or sites about child porn?
It means whatever the applicable authorities want it to mean.
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If document B says, "extends document A with provisions C" and you sign it without reading document A and all A's dependencies, you aren't "misled"; you are lazy, incompetent and negligent. If the process is unnecessarily complex (and this is the EU, so that goes without saying), you simply refuse to consider the document on process grounds. You don't sign something because some words look vaguely appealing to lobbyists^Wvoters and those lobbyists^Wvoters told you to do so.
Going to http://www.startpage.com/ redirects you to the https version.
As an interesting aside, this is from the FAQ page:
On July 14th 2008 Ixquick received the first European Privacy Seal from European Data Protection Supervisor Mr. Peter Hustinx. The Seal officially confirms the privacy promises we make to our users. It makes Ixquick the first and only EU-approved search engine. Both EU Commissioner Viviane Reding and Dr.Thilo Weichert, German Privacy Commissioner complemented Ixquick on its privacy achievements. You can find the press release here.
So... the EU wants privacy, but also wants to monitor everything you do? What a strange place.
It's also worth clarifying that they're not legislative documents in the formal sense, but they do form part of the legislative process. To not prepare such preliminary documents with care and attention at every stage inevitably means you'll end up with a bad legislative document.