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EU To Monitor All Internet Searches

Xemu writes "The European Parliament is issuing a written declaration about the need to set up an early warning system to combat sexual child abuse. However, the substance of the declaration is to extend the EU data retention directive to search engines, so that all searches done on for example Google will be monitored. If you are a citizen concerned about the right to privacy and freedom on the Internet, you can help by sending e-mail to the MEPs from your country and explaining the issue to them."

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  1. Take off and nuke the Vatican from orbit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's the only way to actually do much of anything about child sexual abuse.

  2. Yeah OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because pedos are totally going to Google "kiddy porn downloads".

    1. Re:Yeah OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      First they come for the criminals and the pedos. Then they come for the rest.

      As always, it is a shitty job trying to defend privacy and freedom of expression as one always defends the pervs and the criminals. But the laws are always "aimed" at them, but then magically used against everyone else. Just see the 9/11 laws that were only to be used for combating terrorism. :/

    2. Re:Yeah OK by Andorin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I know there are those who hype the child porn issue to such an extent that you are labeled a pedo if you post anything less than an extremist attack on child porn, but I'm not so concerned about those people that I need to be anonymous in order to speak out against what I see as retardation incarnate.

      Unless you were joking. In which case, lol, i c what u did thar.

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    3. Re:Yeah OK by jornak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Full infiltration of the TOR network is pretty much necessary if they ever want to catch pedophiles in the act.

      I've also got some philosophical issues with the removal of access to this content as well. If you take away CP from a pedo, doesn't it just mean that they're going to turn to alternative methods to fulfill their urges, such as nabbing little kids, and public indecency at parks, etc etc??

    4. Re:Yeah OK by calmofthestorm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, they'll immediately revert to being moral, responsible citizens.

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  3. This will never fly by Jerrei · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 12

    No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

    If the EU doesn't uphold this, it's members will.

    1. Re:This will never fly by weicco · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bah! In Finland government welcomes any new idea to monitor use with open hands. We have already blacklists which are supposed to keep you away from child porn but it is not working very well and for some curious reason it filters out also local Finnish site criticizing the blacklisting. The law enables only to filter foreign sites.

      I think I'm already hearing applauding coming from the seat of the government some 150 km south from here...

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  4. Old meets new Europe by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the eastern parts of Europe you had to be careful on the phone.
    The West smiled when it saw the vast data collection systems and rows of tape.
    Now you have to be careful what you type into Bing, Yahoo, Google ect.
    Interesting to see the line about "based on the existing system for food safety" [laws].

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  5. Think of the Children by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pedophiles use children for their own self-serving purposes, and now the government wants in on the "fun". They're using these poor children to achieve the government's broader political goals, getting away with things they otherwise could not. "Think of the children", the oldest trick in the book since the Victorian era.

    Perverts and legislators -- it's like they're made for each other.

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  6. They're not [just] stupid... by calmofthestorm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    CP is just an excuse, not the real thing they want to look for.

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  7. Sick and tired of the "pedophiles" excuse by mykos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "We need to monitor your internet searches. You know, to prevent pedophilia."
    "But I don't want anyone's internet searches monitored without a warrant to monitor them."
    "SO YOU'RE PRO-CHILD MOLESTATION AND YOU WANT GRAPHIC SEXUAL DEPICTIONS OF THEM ON THE INTERNET?!"
    "What in the hell? That's not what I said at all!"
    "Maybe we should be monitoring YOU, pervert."

  8. Re:Well, shit by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No https://www.startpage.com/ might, but if its ordinary HTTP, it can be detected by the ISP which is honestly more of a threat than Google logging searches.

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  9. SSL Google? by beaverdownunder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Will they ban it?

  10. Child Abuse? You lying mother fuckers. by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fuck the EU and fuck the children. Fuck the assholes who use "child porn" as an excuse for every thing!!!

    When has Google Trends ever listed a single Kiddie Porn search string?

    If Kiddie porn was such a problem on search engines, surely it would be right up there on #1 of Google Trends right?

    Give me a break.

    The child fucking boogieman is not real. Its not the children that are getting fucked... ITS YOU.

    Burn your governments down.

  11. Re:Researchers by timmarhy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    if she had of been a He, they'd be in jail right now, probably getting molested. oh the irony

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  12. Re:Net neutrality by Rusty+KB · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Without government control of the internet the same search logs would be kept and used against you by the RIAA. Who do you think is "more bad"? Which one do you trust less? Do you honestly think that without government regulation you'd be able to withstand the onslaught of megacorps (or whatever power structure would exit in the absence of said regulations)?

  13. All Sex Must Be Monitored by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Internet searches aren't child molestation. Child molestation is a sex act. So the EU must monitor every sex act to prevent child molestation. Otherwise it's just wasting everyone's time while the real killers run free!

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  14. Will not work and easy to abuse by DJ+Rubbie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All someone interested in breaking this system at a basic level needs to do is to gain access to some popular server to put some code (plain HTML img tags, or javascript if site is vulnerable) that will automatically do searches based on those "monitored" search terms when a user-agent accesses it. This will incriminate all innocent parties that browse those "infected" pages (as if something like is bad), which naturally flood the monitoring tools with garbage.

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  15. Alternatively by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you can help by sending e-mail to the MEPs from your country and explaining the issue to them

    Or you can just search for your MEP's name along terms related to paedophilia. And then do it again, and again...

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  16. So, what happens... by lattyware · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So basically, all the pedophiles (who don't spend thier time doing google searches for 'child porn', I'd hasten a bet) are unaffected, while all the people who search for information on the subject (reporters, worried mothers, hell, anyone looking for information on a subject, which we should be allowed to do in the modern world) gets monitored. Seriously. Great plan.

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  17. Re:Eh, this is to stop child abuse, not CP by PeterBrett · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Kill catholics (a good idea in general)

    Why do you want to kill me? What have I ever done to harm you? Last time I checked, I was spending large amounts of my time and money fighting hard to protect people's privacy and freedom of expression. Now you're calling for my death?

  18. Re:Net neutrality by captainpanic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First of all, RIAA is American - we're discussing the EU here. Obviously, there are similar institutions in Europe, so the remark is still relevant.

    Who says that we are not going to a situation where both the government and the record industry and all kinds of other organizations will control internet logs of everyone? ISP will log it, and distribute it.
    They all will find a valid reason to protect the very important interests of something really important (like "Children" or "The Economy" or "Safety").
    Anyone who will object to this monitoring of the internet is obviously either a Terrorist, a Child Molester or a Communist.
    (I strongly believe that you can't argue with such points, which is why the discussion should be shifted away from single problems, and should instead be about the internet or even information in general).

    On a side note, this is an initiative by some members of the European parliament. They sell it to the public as a urgent thing to stop child abuse. The word privacy isn't mentioned anywhere.

  19. Re:All searches? by FuckingNickName · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If document B says, "extends document A with provisions C" and you sign it without reading document A and all A's dependencies, you aren't "misled"; you are lazy, incompetent and negligent. If the process is unnecessarily complex (and this is the EU, so that goes without saying), you simply refuse to consider the document on process grounds. You don't sign something because some words look vaguely appealing to lobbyists^Wvoters and those lobbyists^Wvoters told you to do so.

  20. Re:Hey EU! by yyxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why don't you monitor all the post and telephones too?

    The EU already has data retention mandates for telephone and E-mail. Supposedly, those are not data-mined, but do you really believe that?

    I want everything monitored. I want cameras in my room and on my shitter too!

    You may already have them if you're subject to police monitoring based on your suspicious phone calls or E-mails. Drug monitoring for your "shitter" is probably coming too as soon as the technology comes down in price.