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Military Develops "Green" Cleaners For Terrorist Attack Sites

An anonymous reader writes "Chemists with the US military have developed a set of ultra-strength cleaners to be used in the aftermath of a terrorist attack. The formulas are reportedly tough enough to get rid of nerve gas, mustard gas, radioactive isotopes, and anthrax. But they are also non-toxic, based on ingredients found in foods, cosmetics, and other consumer products."

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  1. Let me guess..... by bigjoeb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Made by Bechtel/(insert cozy contractor here) for only 2600$ a pint

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    1. Re:Let me guess..... by happy_place · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...as opposed to the price of just letting those toxic substances drift through a community, causing untold amount of additional disease and misery... its refreshing to read of military technology that cleans up destruction, rather than just causing it. I hope that someday a perfect defense isn't just a really good offense, but an ingenious defense.

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    2. Re:Let me guess..... by couchslug · · Score: 2, Insightful

      North Korea has massive chem warfare capability, so the "community" the chemical agents could be drifting through is South Korea. Chems aren't great in small doses, but slather a few urban targets and widespread panic would ensure (even more than from the accompanying artillery bombardment). Since the POTUS has committed to No First Use of nukes, the NKs could use chems in the safe knowledge that we banned chems and won't use any other WMD to stop them.

      http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/dprk/cw.htm

      Marketing the cleaners as a response to "terrorists" conveniently avoids pissing off the Norks or reminding anyone on our side that the US and ROK forces are in deep shit if they get smegged.

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    3. Re:Let me guess..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yup. Why use tactical nukes when MOABs & Daisy-cutters work just as well with no fallout or international outrage.

    4. Re:Let me guess..... by Jaysyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "No First Use" = We have enough conventional weaponry to send anyone back to the stone age if we no longer care about the international repercussions.

      AKA "I can beat you with one arm tied behind my back."

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  2. Cosmetics? by RivenAleem · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because we can totally trust what they put in them?

    1. Re:Cosmetics? by macshit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You seriously trust a website run by a guy who looks like this? He looks like he'd be more at home peddling CD's of his pan flute music at the local farmers market than spouting new age mumbo-jumbo and conspiracy theories on the interwebs.

      Seriously! It's much safer to only trust people with a more orthodox appearance...

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  3. Remove or neutralize? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The formulas are reportedly tough enough to get rid of nerve gas, mustard gas, radioactive isotopes, and anthrax.

    Summary makes it sound like this wonder neutralizes the components instead simply physically removing them. Are radioactive isotopes harder to remove than your generic chocolate stain?

  4. Re:Am I alone in translating "green" by asukasoryu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If we suffer a WMD terrorist attack, I want the BEST products to be used to deal with it, who cares if it's "green"?

    If the fastest decontamination agent creates dangerous byproducts to neutralize NBC agents, is it the best? I think it's hardly worth decontaminating a site if you contaminate the site with your cleaners. "Green" in this article means the site is actually clean when you're done.

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  5. Why is this Idle? by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know some editors class too many things that should be Idle as something else, but this seems to be the opposite; a legitimate article that is being filed as Idle. How exactly is this not considered news? It's a new application for existing chemicals that helps deal with terrorism without restricting rights, which is a hell of lot better than most of the anti-terrorism procedures we've been putting into place.

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  6. Re:Am I alone in translating "green" by macshit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Isn't a massive terrorist attack causing widespread destruction likely to cause FAR more pollution than anything we'd have to do to clean up AFTER IT?

    Well who knows, but the less toxic they can make it, the better, so they can slather it on like crazy without having to worry about anything except the immediate threat... if it's somewhat less effective but can be used much more freely and quickly, in greater quantity, "green" may be a huge advantage.

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  7. Re:Am I alone in translating "green" by ArcherB · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If we suffer a WMD terrorist attack, I want the BEST products to be used to deal with it, who cares if it's "green"?

    If the fastest decontamination agent creates dangerous byproducts to neutralize NBC agents, is it the best? I think it's hardly worth decontaminating a site if you contaminate the site with your cleaners. "Green" in this article means the site is actually clean when you're done.

    I don't know if I'd consider STB (Super Tropical Bleach) as a product to create "dangerous byproducts". Especially when you consider that the agents it cleans will have you doing the kickin' chicken within minutes of exposure. I'm afraid I have to agree with the GP here. If I've been exposed to an NBC agent, I want something that I know works. I really don't care if it kills the grass I'm standing on.

    STB is basically chlorine bleach and lime. Yes, it's not the kind of thing I would want on my skin or lungs, but there are many household and garden products that would fit into that category.

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  8. Re:Am I alone in translating "green" by asukasoryu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I've been exposed to an NBC agent, I want something that I know works.

    You're missing the point. This is not a treatment for exposure, it's a cleaner for contaminated sites. The question is whether you want to use a cleaner that has known negative effects on the environment (especially when used in large quantities) or one that is less destructive. It doesn't make sense to use super bleach when the military has come up with an effective "green" cleaning agent.

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  9. Re:Just want it clean by Spatial · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Fear is not thinking.