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Blizzard vs. Glider Battle Resumes Next Week

trawg writes "You paid for it, you have the DVD in your drive and the box on the floor next to your desk, but do you own the game? That's the question the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals will rule on next week in the case between Blizzard, publisher of World of Warcraft, and MDY, publisher of the Glider bot. The Glider bot plays World of Warcraft for you, but Blizzard frowns on this, saying it voids the license agreement — you don't own the game, you only have a license to use it, and bots like Glider invalidate the license. The EFF has a good summary of the case as well. The case is due to be resumed on Monday."

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  1. Re:Still waiting for... by Sparr0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    TAEB is getting there. It already plays better than I do about 10% of the time.

  2. Re:Wider implications? by snowgirl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does this case have much wider implications (as summary hints at) for the software licensing at large?
    I haven't read the article yet, but it seems so.

    It depends on the arguments being made. If the only argument is that because World of Warcraft is heavily dependent upon server-side interactions, that there is a leasing of the software to interact with that code.

    To have the WoW binaries alone is fairly useless. Most games are not the same way.

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  3. Re:High Price of Success by mykos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah, I hate cheating too, but this is too high of a cost. It's like using a guillotine to fix your dandruff.

  4. Re:Blizzard is not completely guilty by snowgirl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ^^^^THIS IS 100% UNTRUE^^^^

    Glider was made for people to play with their own emulated servers at home not on the blizzard servers!!!!!

    If someone chooses to use glider on the blizzard servers blizzard has every right to remove their account. Glider is not arguing with that.

    Glider is saying people who own the software can run glider with it!!!!

    This is the exact same as making a bot that plays starcraft single player.

    This is why we have real lawyers fight this stuff in court. Your argument admits all the key parts necessary to prove liability on the part of MDY in inducing people to violate their contract with Blizzard.

    The primary purpose of Glider is a violation of Blizzard's license agreement to use WoW.

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  5. The consequence of this: by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'll choose Microsoft for an example, although this sort of boilerplate is fairly standard. I quote from the license terms for Microsoft Office:

    The software is licensed, not sold. [...] You may not:

    • work around any technical limitations in the software;
    • use the software in any way that is against the law;
    • rent, lease or lend the software;

    The first user of the software may make a one-time transfer of the software, and this agreement, directly to a third party.

    And many other restrictions.

    So Microsoft can (successfully, in the Central District of California) sue you for copyright infringement the moment you load Office into RAM after: fixing their product for them; using it for any purpose that is "against the law" (which law?); borrowing it from anyone; buying a 2nd hand copy.

    You think that's ridiculous? The U.S. District Court for the Central District of California doesn't think so. They think that the EULA gives Microsoft exactly that right.

    This is not hyperbole or speculation; this is now established case law in that District (pending appeal).

    You don't think Microsoft would ever exercise this power? OK, pick a different name then. Adobe. Apple. SCO. Choose your poison.

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  6. Re:I am not going to hold my breath... by snowgirl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Fair enough on the tortuous interference, but that's small beer compared to the ownership and copyright issues.

    MDY shouldn't have to make any argument regarding whether the RAM copy is "authorized" or not, since Title 117 disallows copyright claims against the owner.

    Note carefully that Blizzard's argument isn't against Title 117, it's that their EULA means that the purchaser doesn't "own" the copy that they bought, and so the enjoys no Title 117 protection. That's the significant precedent here.

    MDY didn't make the argument at all, Blizzard made the argument that it was unauthorized... specifically for the points that you raised.

    MDY is then required to answer as to how Blizzard is wrong, otherwise they stipulate to the claim.

    This raises the question: can a person in possession of a piece of software, make a copy necessary for its use, when such use is in violation of the EULA?

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  7. Re:I like living in the future. by Fred+IV · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A lot about World of Warcraft still doesn't make sense to my videogame-loving brain, but I'm not sure that the people who stick with WoW for years really love videogames to begin with.