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Amazon Seeks 1-Nod Ordering Patent

theodp writes "Amazon.com is famous for its patented 1-Click ordering system. But what about 1-Nod ordering? Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos is seeking a patent on a system that would let people make purchases with a nod, a smile, or even a raise of the eyebrow. Bezos' invention — 'Movement Recognition as Input Mechanism' — envisions a computing device that could interpret certain facial expressions and enhance or potentially replace conventional input devices such as keypads and touch screens."

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  1. Isn't this standard practice at auctions? by cjonslashdot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought that simply automating a non-automated process is not sufficient to obtain a patent. At many auctions one can bid simply with a nod.

  2. What will be next? by PerformanceDude · · Score: 5, Funny
    1-frown refund?

    I'd like to see that... Now where is that patent application form?

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    1. Re:What will be next? by sycodon · · Score: 2, Funny

      I suspect there will probably be a 1 hard on ordering system for porn.

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    2. Re:What will be next? by mike260 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Parent post made me LOL but unfortunately an ad saw this, misinterpreted it, and I now own an IBM z10 mainframe.

      I'd cry but I'm afraid that Amazon would notice.

  3. Not exactly innovative. by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He wants a patent on a centuries old auction bid technique? But on a computer? Whateva... besides, there must be plenty of published techniques for more generic movement-as-input already - it's been a popular research topic.

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  4. 1-Touch balls buy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want to buy when I touch my balls.

    And if I have an erection I want to buy with fastest shipping method.

  5. What I have at http://en.swpat.org by ciaran_o_riordan · · Score: 2, Informative

    If this gets granted, the 1-click example shows that even if it's invalid, the review process is sometimes completely useful because takes so many years and often just results in narrowing the patent.

  6. But it is on a *computer* by dsginter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The patent office will rubber-stamp anything obvious if it is done on a computer. The one-click patent is a wonderful example: for decades, bartenders have been taking a patron's credit card and setting it aside. This allows the patron to simply "run a tab" and order a beer with just one click of the finger. This can't be patented because it is obvious to everyone.

    But, if you do it on a computer, you can patent it for some reason. The mind boggles.

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    1. Re:But it is on a *computer* by qubezz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The beauty here: this is patenting the problem and not the solution.

      Where are the code snippets, the algorithms to detect the motions, the heuristics to reject false positives in this patent application?

      It would have been so much easier for Edison if he could patent the idea 'glass bulb that produces light when electricity flows through it', instead of actually showing that he could do it.

      The USPTO seems to think that this is fine these days though - patenting an idea instead of an invention.

  7. Re:Online auctioning ? by night_flyer · · Score: 3, Funny

    SOLD!

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  8. It's been done before... by FoboldFKY · · Score: 4, Informative

    To quote Douglas Adams from one of the HHGTTG books (forget which one; it's the one involving the Krikkit):

    "Let us bow our heads in payment."

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    1. Re:It's been done before... by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 2, Informative

      Slartibartfast floated past, waving.

      ``It's just a documentary,'' he called out. ``This is not a good bit. Terribly sorry, trying to find the rewind control ...''

      ``... is what billions of billions of innocent ...''

      ``Do not,'' called out Slartibartfast floating past again, and fiddling furiously with the thing that he had stuck into the wall of the Room of Informational Illusions and which was in fact still stuck there, ``agree to buy anything at this point.'' ... [SNIP SNIP SNIP] ...

      Slartibartfast floated past again at this moment.

      ``Found it,'' he said. ``We can lose all this rubbish. Just don't nod, that's all.''

      ``Now, let us bow our heads in payment,'' intoned the voice, and then said it again, much faster and backwards.

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  9. Say no more . . . some bloke in the pub . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2, Funny

    . . . was bothering me the other night "with a nod, a smile or even a raise of the eyebrow." And his inquiries if my wife was interested in "candid photography."

    Was he infringing on Amazon's patent?"

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  10. WWSWHD? by thijsh · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... make purchases with a nod, a smile or even a raise of the eyebrow ...

    I want to bet this system will be so sensitive it will lead to a lot of 'purchases', which will be defended in court with reasoning along the lines of: "our patented method can even detect the body language of subconscious wants and needs with over 99% accuracy, which is a higher success rate than our patented 'one click buy' button which has a slightly higher error rate because of accidental clicks."

    >>> FAST FORWARD >>>

    Year 2042 history books describing the rise of the Amazon mega-conglomerate identify this patent as the most important one in Amazon's history:

    This of course would lead to the infamous landmark lawsuit of Amazon VS Stephen Hawking who had an Amazon pop-up on his wheelchair-computer and accidentally ordered everything on Amazon.com by staring blankly at the screen...
    The argument of SWH's lawyers that he could not possibly operate a Segway for lack of motor control and thus had no use for it - and did not want to order it - was refuted by the Amazon legal team because, according to them, "the lack of motor control gave him the strong subconscious urge to walk an do all the things a walking man can do, and thus order a Segway".

    After losing this exhausting case Stephen commented: "One cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem, but it is clear that intelligence has no long-term survival value.".

    This legal tactic that set a precedent causing a new advertising phenomenon called 'drive by shopping'. Every pop-up ad from Amazon now has a mandatory purchase when you look at it, because they can prove 'without a doubt' you *want* to purchase the items they sell using their unique patented method...

  11. Opera ASA has prior art by netux · · Score: 3, Funny
  12. What's the point? by Zouden · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously, what's the point of this? Ordering things online is already easy. Does Bezos really think there's a whole untapped market out there of people who would like to buy something but find clicking links too exhausting? I wonder how those customers managed to navigate his website in the first place.

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  13. It's not my bag. by saider · · Score: 3, Funny

    We see by your expression that you really like this Swedish made penis enlarger. One has been ordered in your name. Additionally, we have posted a "like" on your Facebook page as well as posting a Twitpic on your twitter account. Please smile again if you would like to cancel this operation.

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  14. Don't browse Amazon sitting at a cafe outside by Laxori666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You are sipping a delicious coffee, sitting outside your favorite cafe. "Man," you say to yourself, "who would buy a set of bleachers on Amazon? $10,000! Hah!"

    Presently, your friend Bob comes walking down the street. "Hey Bob!" you say, waving and nodding. Your browser starts loading a new page. "Purchase confirmed." DOH!!

  15. Class action lawsuit possible? by cjonslashdot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder if it would be possible to mount a class action lawsuit against the Patent Office, listing a volume of inappropriate software patents, and challenging them all based on the same allegation of incorrect application of patent case law. The plaintiffs could be the industry of software authors who are prevented from using the "methods" in these specious patents.

    1. Re:Class action lawsuit possible? by buchner.johannes · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Please do that.

      But you'll have to come up with a metric for "innovation", because the number of patents registered is what governments use today ... We know sucks, but come up with a better one.

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    2. Re:Class action lawsuit possible? by Known+Nutter · · Score: 2, Funny

      You could, expect I just got patent for "method of mounting a class action lawsuit against the Patent Office"

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  16. 2-click patent by orthicviper · · Score: 5, Funny

    i always wondered why amazon didn't patent a 2-click and 3-click ordering system to really stick it to barnes and noble

  17. Suggested prior art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In patents, it's just the claims that count (that's what the monopoly is on).

    For most of the claims, the "Mind Reading Machines" display at the Royal Society Summer Exhibition 2006, and associated papers from University of Cambridge, seems like prior art. It analysed facial expressions to infer affective state, charting estimates (on the user interface) of how likely it was that the user was expressing interest, confusion, etc. (So, lots of changing the UI based on analysing video images and motion of parts of someone's face, threshholds, etc)

    Various eye-tracking devices seem like prior art for other claims. For instance, there are plenty of applications for controlling a mouse or selecting text via eye-tracking.

    A publication from Japan, which detected a user moving his gaze from one screen to another and highlighted the mouse location on the destination screen, seems to be prior art for a few of the ones that use the orientation with respect to the device.

    It's quite possible that later "dependent claims" down the list might get through -- but they are likely to be so constrained as to have little effect.

  18. in other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news... Michael J. Fox has declared bankruptcy.

  19. Is there a 'stupid' tag ? by unity100 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    there should be ... for this patent thing is really going towards that way.