Porn Sites Pop Up In China
crimeandpunishment writes "It may only be a temporary glitch, but it's one that's providing some pleasure for Internet users in China. Previously blocked websites, including ones with pornography, are suddenly accessible in China. The country has a long history of cracking down on online pornography. One analyst says it's far more likely that this is a glitch, not a change in Internet censorship policy."
One analyst says it's far more likely that this is a glitch, not a change in internet censorship policy.
I don't think any analysts are necessary to make such a blatantly obvious statement.
You fail, again.
It's a trap designed to let the government perform a high-profile sweep of "perverts".
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That's not a bug; it's a feature.
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I have a porn site that gets shitloads of traffic from China. Several other porn web masters I know also gets Chinese traffic, so their porn block filter most definitely is not air tight. There is just way to much porn on the internet for a single filter to block it all.
that will be popping up. ;)
...er, I forgot.
I was there two years ago. Spent time in Taiwan and Hong Kong as well as Shenzhen and Shanghai (the last two being unequivocally mainland China). No problems at all accessing pr0n, I can tell you. But is that because I was at various ritzy hotels where the censorship rules don't apply equally?
I only post comments when someone on the internet is wrong.
It may only be a temporary glitch, but it's one that's providing some pleasure for internet users in China.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a perverted sentence?
Yeah, I noticed this recently. I popped in the name of my favorite porn sample aggregator and it loaded, as did all the sites it linked to. Later, I tried to go to youtube - blocked! It turns out my VPN was off the whole time and I hadn't noticed. These porno sites were all blocked before. I don't believe it's de jure illegal to access porn sites, but it is illegal to host them for sure. Online porn is one of the things that the Chinese mafia does in its IT divisions.
What China needs is to produce its own domestic porn. There is no shortage of women ready and willing to do whatever is required. They have Taiwanese and HK porn but it sucks (ask for "yellow DVD/huang1 de DVD" at your friendly neighborhood DVD shop). To many mainland Chinese, the only context they see white women in is pornos or mainstream media. This distorts their viewpoint of all white women. A couple of my friends get harassed all the time because they have blonde hair and nice chests. Everyone assumes they're prostitutes because they look like the women that the Chinese see in pornos. Come on, how many of you immediately think of "kung fu" (or worse, "karate") when you see a Chinese person? Associations are there and they are real.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
One can't help but wonder how much productivity could be gained if internet porn was not accessible in the U.S.
The Chinese authorities may have finally figured out that porn is and always has been a major driver of advancements in communications technology. Maybe they're letting their people see porn because it's good for business.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
...half a billion priapic pop-ups in China.
The "cue the foo posts in 3, 2, 1..." posts will commence with no subsequent foo posts in 3, 2, 1...
Growing up Christian, I understood well why a *Christian* nation would want to eliminate pornography. Banning pornography seemed to fit well with the sixth commandment. It didn't seem at all out of the ordinary that law reflected the derision of most of the voters.
But why is China blocking porn? They aren't a traditionally Christian country - they're decidedly atheist, and actively prosecute Christians. They haven't a clue why (philosophically, at least) sexual morality matters. It seems remarkably odd that a country decidedly anti-Christian is enforcing a ban on pornography, and one more restrictive than America (which is supposedly a Christian nation (or was)).
What possible reason could they have for doing this, aside from the outright malevolent oppression of their citizens. They don't even know *why* porn is wrong, yet they outlaw it.
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According to netizens in China, they're declaring that it was done intentionally b/c there's an upcoming WTO inspection coming along which checks to ensure that the member countries are "open enough".
After the official inspection is over, they'll be blocked again.
"Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
- Orwell, 1984.
But that's just the root cause of all totalitarian ideologies. You're looking for the proximate cause, which is why this specific form of control is useful.
Fortunately, the fictional society in George Orwell's unintentional HOWTO also featured a "Junior Anti-Sex League", and it's there for the same reason that China features a ban on pr0n.
Totalitarians have known precisely what's wrong with unregulated sex, and they've known it - even if just instinctively - since before the written word.
"It was not merely that the sex instinct created a world of its own which was outside the Party's control and which therefore had to be destroyed if possible. What was more important was that sexual privation induced hysteria, which was desirable because it could be transformed into war-fever and leader-worship. ( ... ) There was a direct intimate connection between chastity and political orthodoxy. For how could the fear, the hatred, and the lunatic credulity with the Party needed in its members be kept at the right pitch, except by bottling down some powerful instinct and using it as a driving force? The sex impulse was dangerous to the Party, and the Party had turned it to account."
- Orwell, 1984.
Of course, it's not just the Chinese totalitarians who do this sort of thing. The United States is full of Republichristian fundamentalists to the point that the gay evangelist and toe-tapping Senator are practically cliches.
The Catholic priesthood is celibate - and when it says "Think of the children!", methinks it doth protest too much. But even without its legions of pedopriests, the Catholic Church's ban on contraception comes from the same place: control mating opportunities amongst the laity, and you can keep 'em in church -- because without sex, your gigantic cathedrals (which feature some of the most beautiful architecture/lighting/windows/artwork ever created, and giant mindblowing-reverberating pipe organs that still sound awesome centuries after their construction) were the closest thing a Dark Ages serf would ever get to experiencing ecstasy.
Meanwhile, the marital history of the guy who founded that other religion from the Middle East speaks for itself, and the resulting social policies, in which tribal leaders and rich dudes get four wives... well, with all the wives taken 4-at-a-time to the upper crust, that leaves the low-ranking tribesmen with nothing to look forward to but to strap bombs on themselves in order to hurry up and get their mojo on with those 72 virgins waitin' for 'em in the afterlife.
China's ban on pr0n is just a symptom of a much wider phenomenon that's practically universal amongst authoritarians. The goal isn't th ban pr0n, but the reason it is there is a very good one: it works.
You call THIS a GLITCH?!
"Keep you doped with religion, sex and tv
And you think your so clever and classless and free
But your still fucking peasants as far as I can see"
China still has a couple things to learn from us industrial nations.
Just wait till a good wind picks up over china...You will be able to smell the release all over the world. Also watch out for earthquakes and tsunamis. If china gets in sync it's game over man! Game over!
They can take our lives, but they can never take our POOOOORRRNNOOOO!!!!!!
maybe china is experimenting with the idea that the danger of social unrest is starting to outweigh the desire for good societal moral values
i live in china and i can tell you that people are genuinely frustrated about wealth disparity and seriously losing hope of ever owning a home
one only needs to read the stories about attacks on school children and worker suicides to see outward manifestations of this frustration
maybe they're hoping that people will "let it out" in their own homes
Who's that analyst? I wanna hire this guy right now.
The same moral decay spread to Japan, and now it's in China. I don't suspect who it is, as I know who profits from immorality. World War 2 was actually started by The Madagascar Plan and not Adolf Hitler invading Poland. But first of all, Germany entered horrendous decay at the conclusion of the that prior war.
After World War 1, so much infrastructure in Germany was without owners and receptive to buy through their government that all kinds of speculative foreigners arrived. Ever since after World War 1 that's when prostitution, Ghettos, thievery, murder, and general crime rose so high that everyone got to the bottom of it and found that all the foreigners living among Germans brought it from their prior cultures in Poland, Bavaria, and some areas in Russia. And now you know why the German National Socialist Party (Nazi. Party) arrived on the scene, pushed be a leader who found the same foreign people that kept him from entering a liberal Arts class of a major University to be indistinguishable from a similar branch of his family-tree that he detested for being the primary mafias in illicit lifestyle and proponents of detestable living arrangements: jews.
Yes, Adolf Hitler was unlike his fellow jews in that he loved Germany to not see it miscegenate a moral culture by sinful unrepentant nomads. Yet at the same time, he wanted to help both jews and Germans.
You write so poorly that at first I thought you were trolling. But if you're going to argue against my post, you can at least refrain from contradicting yourself:
Now I don't like debate which is pointless. You've contradicted yourself multiple times in the above post, and if you continue to do so, you'll probably find someone who dismisses your arguments on that basis alone. If you're going to contribute to the discussion, going to enlighten someone, checking your post for logical consistency is a must to avoid a rash of "GOSH - you contradicted yourself!" replies which neither refute the points you make, nor add nothing to the discussion.
As for trolling, I'd say you're doing good work. Your post is worded so well it's honestly difficult to determine if you're really a passionate, but stupid atheist, or merely trying to make both atheists and Christians alike appear ignorant.
I suppose someone else would justify responding to what they knew to be a troll, but I could honestly care less.
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WTF are you trying to do? I'm getting my wank on here, man. SHUT UP. AND DON'T CALL ATTENTION TO THEM!
Turn it off! Amazing how an atheistic country sees the danger of porn more than we do!
Finally those chinese will learn a few things about sex, and how to pull out....
trust me...they need that knowledge!