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Masten and Armadillo Perform First VTVL Restarts

FleaPlus writes "Recently Masten Aerospace, winner of NASA's 2009 Lunar Lander Challenge, demonstrated using its Xombie vehicle the first-ever mid-flight restart of a VTVL (vertical-takeoff vertical-landing) rocket, a critical capability for the emerging suborbital/microgravity science and passenger markets (video from ground). Not to be outdone, John Carmack's Armadillo Aerospace (winner of the 2008 Lunar Lander Challenge) flew its Mod rocket to 2,000 feet (610m), deployed a drogue parachute, and then restarted the engine to land (multi-view video showing John Carmack at the controls)."

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  1. Awesome frame rate by MalHavoc · · Score: 5, Funny

    John's new 3d engine looks sweet. Incredible detail! Are there plans for a rail gun?

  2. Re:"John Carmack at the controls" by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 4, Funny

    to see if you can control a rocket with the WASD keys?

    This gives "Rocket Jumping" a whole new meaning.

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  3. Re:Very Impressive by nofx_3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I watched it twice. In the first video I was impressed by the same thing as you, the vectoring stabilizing the falling rocket. On the second watch I was even more impressed when I realized even after the drogue shoot and free fall, the rocket landed just a foot or two from it's original takeoff point. So the vectoring didn't just stabilize the rocket, it also steered it back to the takeoff point.

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  4. Re:Just a step... by FleaPlus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Very impressive, but these are just jump-jets for now - sort of rocket helicopters. Going from what we saw to something that can get to orbit, deposit a payload, and return to earth undamaged is going to take a lot more work. Good luck to both teams.

    I don't think either Masten or Armadillo (or Virgin, XCOR, or Blue Origin) are planning on targeting the ground-to-orbit market any time soon. I think the general target markets for them for the next several years goes something like this:

    * testbeds for NASA autonomous lander tech, like autonomous hazard avoidance (NASA can just put their AI/vision equipment on existing lander to test them out)
    * suborbital science payloads: there's a lot of scientists who currently have to pay $1 million+ a launch to fly payloads on suborbital sounding rockets to the upper atmosphere and near-space that would love to pay the much-lower prices Masten and Armadillo charge to fly at much-higher flight rates
    * microgravity science payloads: getting amounts of microgravity time that can only currently be beaten by flying on the ISS
    * suborbital passenger payloads: both "tourists," scientists who want to be able to operate their experiments manually, and training for orbital astronauts. Armadillo just announced that they were planning on charging $102K per person, undercutting Virgin's price by half: http://www.space.com/news/space-tourism-new-deal-100430.html
    * robotic landers for NEOs/Moon/Mars, boosted to the location by an expendable rocket
    * after making tons of money on the above, then maybe they'll start thinking about orbit. Once that happens, it'll probably be with something like pop-up boosters, where a reusable VTVL craft will boost an expendable secondary stage high/fast enough that it can reach orbit.

    Let me know if I forgot any. ;)

  5. Re:"First VTVL Restarts" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nope, first with the same engine (hence "restart"). LM landings used two different engines and stages for landing and taking off.