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Cory Doctorow On For the Win, Gold Farming, and DRM

adaviel passes along a New Scientist interview with Cory Doctorow, who has been touring for his new book For the Win. The SF author and technology activist talks about DRM, gold farming, and much else besides.

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  1. Titled misspelt by slackarse · · Score: 5, Funny

    "For Teh Win."

    There, fixed that for you.

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    1. Re:Titled misspelt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      I just read the article:

      Jessica Griggs takes a trip to the complex frontier world of...

      MMmmmmm, so we meet the interviewer, Jessica.

      I don't know who she is or what she looks like, but I'm already in love with her. I imagine her in a pantsuit, projecting raw power and subtle dominance behind a disarming pair of horn-rimmed glasses. She walks out of her cubicle with a sexy but straightforward strut as she delivers her "goods" to the copy editor.

      She is tactile enough to record interviews with her sexy youthful hands, free of protruding veins and tendons, writing pen-on-notepad at blinding speed like a 50's-era law student notating a Spanish lecture.

      I invision her wearing a corset at times, hidden under her conservative white-linen blouse, as she carries on secret trysts with the various blue-collar building porters and custodians. She's off-limits to us nerds because nerd-dom is thirsty work for her...and so thirsty work warrants thirsty play, as she fellates an unbathed, illiterate-but-muscular laborer named Pedro in the utility closet.

      ...

      I'm back, guys. After extensive Google searches, I paid 50 bucks for her current address and a background check. Spotless. Radiant. And she lives at 32 Garrison Street Suite# 56 in Boston's beautiful Back Bay. Mmmmm, back bay. I'm texting this as I look over the brick fence into her window. She just came back from a hard day in the office. Man, look at her without that coat, tossing her silky hair back with a single nod as she puts it into a ponytail. I would love to kiss those tired feet of hers, with their perfect red polish and the aroma of a fine Camembert...I bet her panties would also smell mustily divine right now...*Pant, Pant*...nobody smells perfect after that long a day at work...*pant*...(By the way, I'm texting this from my Blackberry). Oh, shit...she's spotted me...hold on...She just picked up her phone and pulled her blinds down.

      Oh, crap, the security guard is coming...hold on....

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  2. interesting quote from the subject of the article by mogness · · Score: 5, Informative
    Awesome quote from this guy in the article, on DRM and his work. Makes you think about who is really gaining from this whole DRM and copy protection gambit.
    Hint: it's not the artist.

    Obscurity, not piracy, is the biggest problem writers face. In the 21st century, if you are not making art with the intention of it being copied, you are not making contemporary art.

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  3. Gold Farming History by Tauto · · Score: 5, Informative

    "When did gold farming start? First reports were in Central America and Mexico in about 2003." I remember gold farming in Asheron's Call in early 2000. Here's a link to a blurb about Sony's problems with EverQuest in April 2000. http://news.cnet.com/2100-1017_3-239052.html

    1. Re:Gold Farming History by DeadboltX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I could be wrong, but I think he was referring to organized businesses hiring employees for the purpose of farming gold, and then reselling it, and that was the business model.

      It seems to me that all the early gold selling (AC, EQ) was individuals selling stuff on ebay, and not some sort of organized business.

  4. Re:What a tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, no. The monkey is his girlfriend. Sure, she's a bit hairy but at least he's getting some.

  5. boingboing hijacked? [citation needed] by wygit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Boing Boing became a Web site in 1995 and later relaunched as a weblog on January 21, 2000, described as a "directory of wonderful things." Over time, Frauenfelder was joined by three co-editors: Cory Doctorow, David Pescovitz, and Xeni Jardin. All four Boing Boing contributors are, or have been, contributing writers for Wired magazine.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boing_Boing

    Self-promotion, on the internet? say it ain't so!

    Cory, Xeni, Dave and Marc ARE boingboing. Cory's also a writer who stands behind his opinions on copyright, licensing the electronic versions of his books via Creative Commons, with free downloads in non DRM formats.

    disclaimer: I also happen to like his writing. I Loved "Little Brother", and liked Down & Out in the Magic Kingdom, Content, Makers, and am halfway through FTW

  6. Re:Indeed, he is a tool. by divisionbyzero · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cory Doctorow is the biggest, most shameless self-promoter on the internet. He's also kind of a tool. He's already hijacked one website to promote his writing. Its called 'boingboing', perhaps you've heard of it?

    Wait! I thought Nicholas Negroponte was the most shameless self-promoter on the internet! I demand a face-off!

  7. Re:interesting quote from the subject of the artic by decipher_saint · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, but after the obscurity, THEN artists get interested in DRM.

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  8. Re:interesting quote from the subject of the artic by brit74 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Obscurity, not piracy, is the biggest problem writers face. In the 21st century, if you are not making art with the intention of it being copied, you are not making contemporary art."

    Interesting fact: Cory Doctorow rips his ideas from other people. The original quote was from Tim O'Reilly. If you watch the internet closely, you'll see him copy other people's quotes and ideas all the time without giving them credit. A few months ago, I saw him regurgitate one author's comment that piracy is like masterbation. Of course, Cory never gives them credit - he's too busy wanting people to believe "his great ideas" aren't directly cribbed from other people. No wonder Cory is such a big fan of piracy - that's how he gets famous - by taking other people's ideas and regurgitating them as if they were his own.

  9. Re:interesting quote from the subject of the artic by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Problem is art has never payed well except in the last half century or so and then only for a few superstars. Now shysters are trying to sell absolute control over works on the promise artist will somehow get payed more, they won't.

    Here's a nice quote from a recent Mick Jagger interview :

    "People only made money out of records for a very, very small time. When The Rolling Stones started out, we didn’t make any money out of records because record companies wouldn’t pay you! They didn’t pay anyone!

    Then, there was a small period from 1970 to 1997, where people did get paid, and they got paid very handsomely and everyone made money. But now that period has gone.

    So if you look at the history of recorded music from 1900 to now, there was a 25 year period where artists did very well, but the rest of the time they didn’t."

    Same goes for authors. There's a reason "starving author" is such a well known concept.

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  10. Having actually READ the novel by silentcoder · · Score: 4, Informative

    A few points of import. The goldfarmers in the novel never steal accounts. They just play the game, and build up large banks of gold to sell. While all WoW players know that a significant part of the banks that the goldsellers sell were acquired through account-theft, these are not the people that FTW is about.

    I don't think you can call playing the game 18 hours a day a crime. The fact that they subsequently sell the gold - well that's only a crime in the concept of breaking a EULA... which is not something I have EVER heard a /. poster speaking AGAINST.

    Furthermore, the world in the book is a bit different, it's set a few years in the future - and the games are no longer MEANT to be a closed economy there. There are official channels of gold trade, where real stockbrokers invest in game gold much as they would invest in any other currency. The goldfarmers in the book use black-markets though because they are excluded from these official channels of trade (which is in fact the game-companies' largest source of income).

    I won't spoil the ending, but suffice to say - this is not a a novel about thieves who live of other people's hard work. It's a novel about hard workers being exploited and demanding a better life. It uses the MMORPG world as a millieu but it's really a book about economics and a scathing attack on the world of sweatshop workers - in all it's forms.
    It includes solid chapters on economic fundamentals, inflation (and how the kind of hyperinflation in Zimbabwe came to be) how it works, and how often it doesn't.

    In short, it's a very, very good book. As SIFI I wouldn't call it groundbreaking, it writes about technology that's every day life NOW. There are some minor practical changes to the games concept in the time of the book but nothing that all gamers aren't expecting now. It's not science fiction, it's a much more a kind of social activism fiction, which happens to use a technological mileu.
    Mind you, I didn't consider Little-Brother to be science fiction either, 99% of the technologies in THAT novel are things that you can download right this second. What it was, was an excellent novel that happens to also teach the fundamentals of crypto, privacy and security systems.

    So in short, I really LIKE Doctorow's niche, he uses his fields of expertise, to set novels with a much wider social message - that's to me what good writing is all about.

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  11. Re:interesting quote from the subject of the artic by NickFortune · · Score: 4, Funny

    Interesting fact: Cory Doctorow rips his ideas from other people. The original quote was from Tim O'Reilly. If you watch the internet closely, you'll see him copy other people's quotes and ideas all the time without giving them credit

    I was going to halp propagate your anti-Cory meme, but I've already forgotten who you are, and therefore I find myself ethicially unable to propagate your ideas.

    Sorry about that.

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  12. Re:interesting quote from the subject of the artic by radtea · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Writers are not philosophers or physicists

    As a physicist and philospher who is currently developing his writing career, I don't agree with this. It's true that some writers are just what you describe. They aren't artists, they aren't original thinkers. They are what used to be known as "hacks".

    Writers, however, are expected to come up with their own ideas, and in the case in point, with their own words--at least some of the time. While it's true that "mediocrity borrows, genius steals", it takes more than theft to make a genius: it takes intelligent transmutation of the stolen material into an original and interesting form. Insofar as a writer does that, they are not a hack, but that is a requirement, not just "expressing old ideas in interesting ways."

    And the best writers, of course, express new ideas in interesting ways. Melville wasn't just regurgitating facts about whales (although he was doing that too...)

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