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Univ. of California Faculty May Boycott Nature Publisher

Marian the Librarian writes "Nature Publishing Group (NPG), which publishes the prestigious journal Nature along with 67 affiliated journals, has proposed a 400% increase in the price of its license to the University of California. UC is poised to just say no to exorbitant price gouging. If UC walks, the faculty are willing to stage a boycott; they could, potentially, decline to submit papers to NPG journals, decline to review for them and resign from their editorial boards."

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  1. Re:seems reasonable by masterwit · · Score: 5, Informative

    I do not think that many of their papers are provided on a "free basis" (well yes mostly they are):

    Obviously, there's a tradeoff for faculty, in that many of the NPG journals are recognized for their high quality, and provide a level of prestige that may be essential for advancing a researcher's career. The libraries recommend alternatives, such as the Public Library of Science journals, but those have yet to reach an equivalent level of recognition. The letter also recommends other open access policies, such as following the NIH open access guidelines, but NPG has already taken actions to support these policies.

    source

    They submitters also get compensated (not highly enough as some would argue). In addition I found this very interesting (from arstechnica):

    Nature's take

    In response to our query, Nature Publishing group provided us with a public statement in which it voices distress that what it had assumed were ongoing, confidential negotiations have been disclosed to the public. As for the assertions made along with the disclosure, NPG thinks they're misleading. "The implication that NPG is increasing its list prices by massive amounts is entirely untrue," the statement reads. According to Nature, its library subscriptions are currently capped at seven percent annually.

    Where did the massive increase mentioned by the UC libraries come from? The statement argues that the price increase seems dramatic simply because UC was operating under a discount that NPG terms "unsustainable." NPG claims that it's providing the UC libraries with a discount from list of close to 90 percent, and that "other subscribers, both in the US and around the world, are subsidizing them." Even with the new pricing in place, NPG estimates that the average download of a paper would only cost UC a bit more than 50.

    NPG seems convinced that cooler heads and a detailed analysis of the numbers will see the UC libraries return to the negotiating table. "We are confident that the appointment of Professor Keith Yamamoto and other scientific faculty to lead the proposed boycott," it states, "will mean they will be in a position to assess value with a rigorous and transparent methodology."

    same source linked againsource

    If those facts are all true, they really should be fair to the other universities...but to be honest I bet both sides are exaggerated as that is how media works.

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  2. Donald Knuth on the topic by toxygen01 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Few months ago I read Donald Knuth's open letter to publisher on the exact same topic - increase in price.
    The letter is dated 2003, but I believe is it as actual today as it was back then.

    the link to this comprehensive letter is:
    http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/joalet.pdf

    if you find it tl;dr, I can only suggest to read at least first 2 pages to get the insight on what he wanted to share with other people...

  3. Re:Not a 400% Increase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wish people would stop quoting large percent increases. They get the math wrong more often than not, so it is hard to tell what is intended.

    The current average cost for the Nature group's journals is $4,465; under the 2011 pricing scheme, that would rise to more than $17,000 per journal, according to the California Digital Library.

    The new price is about four times higher than the old price, a 300% increase, not a 400% increase.

    *COUGH* three times higher... or four times the price.... kettle, Meet pot!