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Pentagon Seeking Out Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange
clustro writes "The Pentagon is desperately seeking the 'cooperation' of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, in order to stop him from releasing over 250,000 pages of confidential foreign policy documents. The documents were allegedly provided to Assange by Bradley Manning, the same solider who leaked a video showing a US Army helicopter killing unarmed civilians and international press correspondents."
The US Government and military have shown repeatedly they cannot be trusted. This is after all about a war based on lies in which untold numbers of people have died and suffered greatly. So fuck you and your social contract.
Um, wasn't it Richard Armitage who "leaked" the name, of the Desk Agent Plame?
And didn't he do it, accidentally (or at least incidentally) in an off the cuff remark while doing an interview about Plame's husband?
Yeah, that's exactly the same as intentionally leaking classified documents.
You seem almost gleeful he has less rights during a court martial, any reason for that?
I've noticed that a lot of ex-military will speak with "glee" about how the UCMJ specifies punishment by death for all kinds of things... truth is if we exercised it we'd have to kill a lot more soldiers, for instance one of those things is rape ("penetration, no matter how slight".) How about the military invoke the UCMJ against every soldier known to have committed rape, for example in Viet Nam? It's never too late, I say we do it RIGHT NOW.
Or, in simpler terms, those who support the death penalty are accessories to murder, and some people like to murder.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
>>>in reality the guys they shot at had a rocket launcher.
It was a CAMERA ya dumb fuck. Didn't you read the accompanying text? The U.S. soldiers shot-and-killed reporters. And in the second video they killed a van full of children. I'm glad this leaked - the People deserve to know how U.S. leaders are terrorizing citizens in these foreign countries. In my book they are no better than Osama Bin Laden.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
And some people think that those who commit certain heinous crimes no longer have a right to enjoy their lives any more. But, hey, let's make a broad generalization that paints the other side of this philosophical debate as happy murderers.
Yes, let's.
Or, in simpler terms, your comment amounted to nothing more than a "think of the children" argument designed to make anyone arguing the other side of the topic look like they don't care about the children and thus they're bad people, even if they have intelligent, well-thought-out reasons for their opinion.
No, not really. See, I want to stop people from committing murder. The "think of the children" group wants to force people to take certain actions. Thus, my stance is diametrically opposed from what you claim it to be.
But, hey, I'm sure you won't see the similarity and I'm also willing to bet you get outraged when you hear a politician drop a "think of the children" when they're pushing their agenda.
There is no similarity, and you surely knew this, which is why you are a hypocrite, which is just a special kind of liar. That, or you're an idiot who can't recognize a logical fallacy when he makes one. The GP gleefully suggested death. I suggest that killing people when it accomplishes nothing is murder. You are welcome to your differing opinion, but it doesn't make my statement fallacious. To the contrary: your statement is both incorrect (as I point out above) and hypocritical for attempting to paint me as something I am not, while claiming I am doing the same thing.
Try harder next time, troll.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Indeed. I hope you get modded all the way up.
The problem is not the behavior of the soldiers in the helicopter. Except the minor incident of shooting people who were clearly attempting to recover wounded, but that's a minor thing all in all.
It is the idea we should fly around in a fucking helicopter and shoot up people who 'look dangerous'. That is the damn problem.
Hell, that's not even sane military behavior.
Militaries have objectives, like 'hold this building' and 'raid the enemy base and blow up the fuel depot' stuff like that. They don't wander around looking for a fight that serves no purpose except for both sides to shoot at each other, and the fact of our overwhelming military superiority results in them winning most fights doesn't make it sane.
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
Excuse me, when you say
the hard way
, you mean murdering kids overseas, right?
WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
Well - if you're an ignoramus, you might say so. I have more medals for Humanitarian Services than all other awards combined. We HELP people at least as much as we hurt people.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
Obviously, if you saw the video, your vision is so bad that you could never get into the military if you wanted to. There were most definitely AK-47's among the people who were shot up. How many? Sorry, I never got a reliable count - more than 4, probably less than 10. As for the camera, I couldn't tell what it was in the video. It resembles a weapon. It resembles a weapon enough that I may very well have made the call that got the cameraman killed.
It is also obvious that you have not read the headings and the commentary that are associated with the video. The Apache was CALLED to the area, BECAUSE ground troops took fire. They didn't just happen along - their buddies were shot at, they were called to find the bad guys, and they found armed men, right where they EXPECTED to find hostile troops.
If you were a soldier, you might understand that you ALWAYS shoot when there is a misunderstanding.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
To Americans it's the 'warzone' but to people that live there it is 'home'.
Why didn't they get out? C'mon, people are responsible for their actions. If they're there, they must be guilty in some way. If a van stopped for the reporter, surely he was involved with the insurgents in some way.
And I don't know why the US doesn't just nuke the whole area and get this over with...
Since, after all, they were only following orders, right? And apparently that's only an invalid defense if you're not an American.
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