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Why Video Calling Is a Wasted Feature In the UK

An anonymous reader writes "Technology affects the way we live but sociocultural influences also dictate what technology we absorb into our day-to-day lives. Take video calling on the iPhone 4 for example; it was pitched as an impressive feature, but will people adopt it? According to one British writer, the UK is unlikely to start making lots of video calls because it's awkward and, well, not very British. 'It's not the way we look when we say them, but the way we say them in order to inject the most bile into a negative statement. Or, on our more enthusiastic days, finding the most wryly witty way to say something while indicating that you couldn't really care less about it. This is the reason we've taken so well to Twitter and are better at watching than creating YouTube videos, to put it in sweepingly generic Internet terms.'"

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  1. Awkward? by tenco · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, it is. Because you're not smiling in the camera but your peers face - which hasn't a camera behind it but above/besides it. So it always seems that your peer is intentionally avoiding looking at you.

  2. Maybe they can invent avatars for your teeth? by linzeal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously though, it is not taking off in the United States either. Skype was installed, setup and demonstrated on at least a dozen of my family's laptops this Christmas and the only person that uses it is my Sister. The reasons I have been given is that they don't want to be seen as fat, unshaven or unclean or that they would rather talk on the phone because they don't want to sound weird. Older people seem to think it is a gimmick and young people would rather text you and 5 other people than give you your full attention on a video link.

    1. Re:Maybe they can invent avatars for your teeth? by gig · · Score: 4, Funny

      The way you see British teeth is how the rest of the world sees US health. Yanks will need whole body avatars to hide their many untreated diseases and morbid obesity.

    2. Re:Maybe they can invent avatars for your teeth? by Kilrah_il · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, people here voiced all kinds of reasons why video call aren't useful, but I think David Foster Wallace summed it up best in his amazing novel, Infinite Jest. The book was published in 1996 and revolved about a future USA (~10-20 years in the future). In the following excerpt he gives an assay about why video calls failed (past tense):

      Good old traditional audio-only phone conversations allowed you to presume that the person on the other end was paying complete attention to you while also permitting you not to have to pay anything even close to complete attention to her. A traditional aural-only conversation [...] let you enter a kind of highway-hypnotic semi-attentive fugue: while conversing, you could look around the room, doodle, fine-groom, peel tiny bits of dead skin away from your cuticles, compose phone-pad haiku, stir things on the stove; you could even carry on a whole separate additional sign-language-and-exaggerated-facial-expression type of conversation with people right there in the room with you, all while seeming to be right there attending closely to the voice on the phone. And yet -- and this was the retrospectively marvelous part -- even as you were dividing your attention between the phone call and all sorts of other idle little fuguelike activities, you were somehow never haunted by the suspicion that the person on the other end's attention might be similarly divided.

      [...] Video telephony rendered the fantasy insupportable. Callers now found they had to compose the same sort of earnest, slightly overintense listener's expression they had to compose for in-person exchanges. Those caller who out of unconscious habit succumbed to fuguelike doodling or pants-crease-adjustment now came off looking extra rude, absentminded, or childishly self-absorbed. Callers who even more unconsciously blemish-scanned or nostril explored looked up to find horrified expressions on the video-faces at the other end. All of which resulted in videophonic stress.

      There is a bit more at this link and a lot more at the book itself, which I highly recommend.

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  3. Broad sweeping statements are foolish by fat_mike · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And another crappy ad exchange to a crappy site masquerading as a "news" source is worse.

  4. Wasted and wasted by soilheart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We've had this feature in Sweden for years now. It was one of these new "cool" features when we got our 3G networks.
    So in the beginning some people used it for the novelty factor, but nowadays it's mostly used by friends who are bored and have nothing else to do than video chat =P.

    BUT. I guess a lot of people with problems hearing still use and love this feature. And as a lot of phones have this built in and the networks support the feature, I wouldn't say it's "wasted".
    It may not be used by the masses, but the most people using it really like and need the feature, and AFAIK there is no large expenses for the carriers/phone manufacturers. So it's not "wasted" as much as "only really usable by a few".

  5. Proximity and usability by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the difference that will explain adoption is this - the degree of usability and proximity.

    With Skype, you have to launch the application. Then the other person has to be running skype - if they are not a skype user they are probably not going to do so. Then you have to arrange to have a time when they will run skype, and in the end wasn't a phone call just easier? I don't use skype video calling for just this reason.

    Furthermore, you can call someone with a phone in your pocket when you have to go to a laptop or desktop to make a video call. Again, the phone call (or text) is simply easier.

    But by the looks of things Apple has again, taken an idea that has been around for some time and made it easy enough to use that the level of convenience is nearly the same as a phone call. By the looks of things it's just another option when you are calling someone (and on WiFi), a video option appears and you are video conferencing. There's no setup by the end user, and they can video chat on the device they always have with them.

    That leaves the other factors remaining - will people want to receive video calls at random times? When it's as easy to video as call, will people do so? That remains to be seen. But the first, necessary, step to adoption was to make it no harder than a phone call.

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    1. Re:Proximity and usability by guyminuslife · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One thing I like about voice-only on phone calls is that I can be naked, and the other person has no idea whatsoever.

      The same goes for Internet forums.

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    2. Re:Proximity and usability by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >>>One thing I like about voice-only on phone calls is that I can be naked

      The one thing I LIKE about video calls is that my girlfriend can be naked, and I can watch. :-) Webcam chatting has become popular with teens, and I bet Video iPhone calls will too. They are young, thin, and naturally beautiful. They don't mind being seen.

      It's only us older folks (30 and up) that don't want to be seen, due to sagging skin, expanding waistline, or whatever
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    3. Re:Proximity and usability by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's only us older folks (30 and up) that don't want to be seen, due to sagging skin, expanding waistline, or whatever

      People all over the world are fatter than ever before. Kids in the USA hold the title, but UK kids aren't far behind. Further, kids are usually highly critical of their own appearance, in large part likely due to the messages they receive from advertisers.

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  6. Apple made a mistake, I believe... by Rooked_One · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They are fruity....

    And they don't recognize a trend coming at them like a freight train. We started using email for convenience. Now that has been replaced somewhat by texting. Now that has been replaced by an even MORE in-personal way of communicating - the most evil thing in the history of the internets - facebook. The "After school popularity contest." People don't want to have conversations with others - they certainly don't want to see someone and have the other person see them - that's what text is for. To me - this is a step backwards.

    Also, it might be good to know i've already deactivated my facebook account, without any qualms - after all, I had "ignored" 80% of people on there because... well - I don't want to hear about your baby's every bowel movement because you are extremely bored....

    And two - its a breeding ground for ignorance. I always posted articles that I thought were.. thought provoking - very few people commented, but WATCH OUT if someone says "I'm going to have sushi for lunch."

    Maybe this whole thing is indicitive of something else, but I think it caters too much to the "me" generation... What are we calling them? Gen Z? I'll tell you right now, Gen Z doesn't want to look at people when they are talking to them, so good luck there apple - I think you just wasted money.

  7. It is not an Apple invention by donstenk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article makes it sound like a breakthrough by Apple but videocalling has been around for at least 3 years in Italy and has not taken on for a variety of reasons, the main one being that it does not solve a problem the user has.

    Video skype is popular amongst families distributed over various countries mostly because it is free. I don't know, but I think international mobile videocalls are probably not free or cheap.

    I had a Nokia e61 with a front facing camera for years and have not used it even once.

    Dennis.

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  8. Re:People prefer "normal" calls by rolfwind · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe the reason it didn't work for them is, from your description, it seems that they felt compelled to use it every time in place of phone conversation instead of when it makes sense. Eat pizza at absolutely every meal, whether lunch, dinner, breakfast - and you'd get sick of it too.

    Video Calls will make sense on the holidays like Christmas, Thanksgiving, Mother's Day, birthday, etcetera. They'll also make sense on other occasions perhaps when the boss wants to talk to you and be assured he has your full attention.

    But a complete replacement for a phone call it is not. But then most people don't know what a phone call is either, so it's no surprise they failed at video calls.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrBtSz5RReM

  9. Redundant by ultranova · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Video calling is simply redundant in Britain. Wherever you are, you can simply say: "Mr. Policeman, could you please forward a copy of this surveillance footage to Mr. So-and-so?"

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  10. generation difference and convenience by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Given that there are plenty of YouTube submissions from the UK I suspect the broad generalizations painted in the article are unrealistic. Also I have found some younger Brits to be culturally different in attitude(and wit!) than 30-something and older Brits.

    I suspect cell phone video conference will not be widely adopted for other reasons. Mostly revolving around obvious things like convenience. Texting is convenient because you can do it more discreetly than a voice call, which explains its huge popularity with teenagers. Parents and teachers can't overhear a texting conversation, but they could overhear a video call.

    I suspect video calls will mainly be used by horny teenagers so they can expose themselves to other horny teenagers.

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  11. Re:ha by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Front facing cameras and video conferencing have been on almost every 3G capable phone since circa 2003.

    It has never really taken off in the UK, it is cool to show someone something, but it costs 50p per minute, so people have never bothered.

  12. 2003 Called, they want their video calling back by AC-x · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We've been here before, when 3G first came out in 2003 Video Calling was supposed to be the big selling point, but it never caught on (possibly because it was much more expensive than voice calling, possibly because people didn't actually want to see each other on the phone!)

    Of course all the Apple hipsters will probably want to video call all their friends straight away to show off their new Iphone 4s, but will video calling actually last this time?

    Here's one of the original Three video calling adverts.
    http://www.visit4info.com/advert/3-Mobile-Video-Calling-Hutchison-3G-Network/8771

  13. Toilets, Cars, etc. by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nobody wants video calling.

    1. Someone calls you when you're in the bathroom - no thanks
    2. Someone calls you when they're in the bathroom "Hey mom, check this out before I flush" - no thanks
    3. You're driving your car - sorry, hands-free earpiece only allowed by law.
    4. You were sleeping and they woke you up - no thanks.
    5. They're boring you and you can't just go "uh-uh" or "okay" every few minutes while you fold the laundry - no thanks
    6. You're with someone else and you don't want them to see because then they'll want to talk to them also - no thanks
    7. You're with someone else and you don't want them to see because then they'll shoot you - no thanks
    8. You're not where you said you'd be - no thanks
    9. You can't just crinkle some cellophane against the mike and say "We've got a bad connection" and hang up - no thanks
    10. It's the boss "keeping an eye on you" - no thanks
    11. I don't have my bluetooth with me so all they'll see is my ear - no thanks
    12. They don't have their bluetooth with me so they've got their stupid phone on speakerphone - no thanks

    It's been out for years. Nobody wants it.