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"Ladies Night" Declared Illegal In Minnesota
aapold writes "The Minnesota Dept of Human Rights has ruled that Ladies Night bar promotions are illegal in Minnesota, as it violates gender discrimination laws. This stems from a 1994 incident where a bar patron was angered at having to pay a cover charge during such an event and filed a lawsuit."
This was a human rights issue? Really? Man is it boring up there in Minnesota, and with this rule, it just got even more boring. State motto: "Are you sure you want to live in Minnesota?"
I think its unfair to force a club not to have a ladies night, and I say this as a guy who still has to pay cover.
Half the bars are racist towards one group or another, and they'll make any excuse to keep them out, the most popular of which is "Shoes". If I had a nickel for everytime someone was not let into a club because of their shoes, I could retire. Clubs are discriminatory, and if they don't let you in, they don't let you in. Its as simple as that. If the owners don't want me inside, than that means they are catering to a different crowd who probably also don't want me in there. So why would I go to a place where I'm hated. Simple as that, go find another club.
In regards to the scouts, you are right in that they just shouldn't let girls into boy scouts. Boys want to be boys, and tell the obnoxious fart and dick jokes and all the other stuff that isn't appropriate around girls. To ruin it for a dozen boys to satisfy a couple girls seems unfair.
If the girls are upset there isn't something to be a part of, perhaps they should go rally more girls to form a troop instead of trying to get into a boys only club. I don't know where people got the idea that excluding someone based on their sex is discriminatory. It's not a negative thing, it's just who its appropriate for. Likewise, I can't get a job serving at Hooters, but I'm not complaining.
Only if they charge money to straight people and don't charge gay people.
What's next?
They going to rule that "White night", where they let all the white people in for free and charge the black people, is discriminatory next?
The reason bars do this in the first place is to attract more women there so I hope the idiot who filed this lawsuit over a $5-$10 cover enjoys the sausage fest that will now be every bar in Minnesota.
I was only joking around. In all seriousness, there are differences between men and women. (Trust me, I've seen a woman naked once. Then my mom screamed and kicked me out of the bathroom.) Even beyond biological differences, there are different ways men and women think and react to certain situations. These differences are natural, and we as a society need to stop pretending they don't exist and being afraid to acknowledge them. I know that I can't carry a child or breastfeed, and I know that women can't write their name in the snow with their own piss (at least not without getting it on their shoes). Cultural differences between men and women are the result not just of societal traditions, but also of these innate differences. It's also a proven scientific fact that women don't build muscle in the same way as men, which is why mixed-gender contact sports are a bad idea, and why certain clubs or events should remain gender specific. Even if they are forced to allow mixed-gender membership by some leftist idealist judge or politician, they should not have to change or eliminate certain parts of what they do to accommodate women.
I'm not an expert, but I play one on slashdot.
I kind of thought you might be joking, but I wanted to make sure I was clear on my position.
Anyway, I agree with you. I see no problem with letting Women participate in Male clubs/events and vice verse, but we shouldn't have to make special accommodations to do so. To me it seems in my situation the parents want their daughters to be treated as equals, but don't want them treated equally. The only solution is to not treat the girls like the boys, but to treat the boys like the girls.
I.E. no one gets to go camping because the girls can't go.