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In Ukraine, IT Freelancing Under Threat

An anonymous reader writes "According to the new tax law (Google translation; Russian original) that is being developed now and should take effect on January 1, 2011, it will not be possible for a private Ukrainian entrepreneur to provide any services to foreign companies without becoming a full-fledged company with a dedicated bookkeeper. Currently it is possible to perform such services and pay the equivalent of $25 in tax. Instead of raising the tax (which is overall welcomed by the community), the legislators plan to outlaw ISP, e-commerce, and Internet-based services — along with any services provided to foreign entities — for individual entrepreneurs. So starting in 2011, freelancers in Ukraine will have several choices: stop doing freelance work, start working illegally, become a full-fledged company subject to multiple cumbersome rules for taxation, or leave the country."

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  1. Re:"Professor killing Ukraine by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Don't worry, he's in good company. The professor-in-chief in the US is also killing the country, and is doing quite a bit of kissing of foreign leader asses...

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  2. i understand you hate government by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    the question is, why do you think corporations would act any better?

    what i'm saying is: list every abuse by government you hate

    ok, now do you not see that corporations would do every abuse you have listed, and MORE, since they are not accountable to anyone? at least the government is accountable to its citizens, so it can be CLEANED UP

    instead, you want to destroy governments, thereby handing all the power to corporations

    in other words: your complaints about government abuses are valid, and i agree with your complaints

    but your solution to the problem creates a problem which is WORSE than what we currently have

    you should CLEAN UP government, not DESTROY it

    i hope you can see the wisdom in these words

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  3. you're a freeloading parasite by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    you profit off the common good of communities, and you have the arrogance to believe that the money you make is through some sort of magic of your own

    continue being a parasite, good for you. but don't make believe that the money in your bank account is anything else than an abstract representation of the wealth of a community (that you are not part of, and you do not contribute to: a parasite)

    the money of the country in your bank account continues to stay wealthy (and therefore its abstract representation, its currency, continues to have value) only because they tax members of that community to maintain the health of that community

    i would bet you don't have Haitian Gourdes or Somalian Shillings in your bank accounts. because those currencies represent communities that are not invested in or maintained. so they stay poor. however, i bet you have some euros, pounds, or dollars in your bank accounts. because those currencies are abstract representations of communities that protected, invested, and maintained, through taxes. so the full effect of your "ideology" is to argue for the devaulation of your own bank accounts. doesn't make much sense does it?

    you have fallen through the cracks. good for you, enjoy your nomadic existence. but don't make believe what you are is anything more than that of a freeloader. give something back to that which you take from, or cease to be a valid commentator on that which you do not contribute to

    what i am saying is that because you do not give to the communities we are members of, you have no right to comment on them, because you have no stakes in them, because you do not contribute to them. the amazing arrogance is that you think you still have a right to comment. you've given up the right to matter, by ceasing to contribute

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  4. yes, it doesn't exist in a world run by thieves by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    luckily "a world run by thieves" is hysterical hyperbole on your part, not reality

    to continue to derive benefits from the community, and to view contributions to the maintenance of that community as letting your "blood be sucked" just because there are thieves somewhere in that community, is incredibly retarded

    either go live in the woods, and use nothing of the community. or contribute to the community you are a part of. if that community has problems, that in no way excuses you from your obligation to contribute. if a thief exists, you should be interested in catching him: you should be interested in the health of your community

    but you don't care about the health of your community. you see someone else freeloading off your community, and you think that is a signal to justify your own parasitism! hilarious

    thieves do exist, and all you can think of is "well, then i should be a thief too". you are a freeloading parasitical selfish piece of shit who commits the even worse sin of not admitting what he is. you actually rationalize your parasitism as somehow correct and noble. incredible

    thank you for the journey into the mind of a thief, and how they rationalize their sorry existence. what an asshole

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  5. logic 101 by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    1. a rich society is a complex society. it is not possible to be a rich society and everyone is toiling in the same type of job

    2. a complex society has members whose income is from various, complicated sources, representing the full spectrum of possible job types and services a mature rich society makes possible, and needs

    3. therefore, tax sources must reflect the various sources of income, or certain members of society get away with being undertaxed and not paying their fair share

    with me so far, asshole?

    currently, you believe that a simpleminded hamfisted approach to taxes is somehow superior: that there might be 20-30 types of revenue stream out there... but you only need to tax one or two. what?!

    all you wind up doing is making taxes even more unfair than they currently are. you probably do this to justify your own desire to contribute less than you should. so with every word you write, you demonstrate even more what a freeloading parasitical asshole you are

    and go ahead, keep hording gold. its value is so high now, its got nowhere to go except down. it really says a lot about your investment intelligence that you think buying an investment when its value is skyhigh is a wise course of action. unless you believe society is going to breakdown and we're going to be living like mad max. that you believe that a pile of gold makes you anything more than just a big fat target in such a world says even more about your intelligence

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