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420,000 Scam E-mails Sent Every Hour In UK Alone

An anonymous reader writes "More than 420,000 scam e-mails are sent every hour in the UK, according to a report by CPP, which estimates that Brits were targeted by 3.7 billion phishing e-mails in the last 12 months alone. A quarter of us admit to falling victim to e-fraudsters, with the average victim losing over GBP285. Fake banking e-mails are the most common method used by criminals, with 55% of those targeted receiving seemingly legitimate e-correspondence from high street banks."

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  1. Those Numbers Are Suspect by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A quarter of us admit to falling victim to e-fraudsters ...

    Okay so the population of the UK is what? Sixty million? So a quarter of that would be fifteen million. Fifteen million victims.

    ... with the average victim losing over GBP285.

    Okay the details in the article are scant but I assume they are talking about the mean and not the median. If that's true then 285*(1.5*10^7) = over four billion quid? And that's about six billion USD.

    My gut reaction is to question this survey or whatever means they used to collect the above information. I can't find anything but this news article on their site, anybody have a link to the original report so we can inspect their methods?

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    1. Re:Those Numbers Are Suspect by nopainogain · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I gotta wonder how many British internet/email users are kind of naive to the nature of the crime. I mean even my 58 year old mother has heard of two or three of the common phishing types. That sounds like a high number of victims to me. Maybe I'm misreading the author's intent.

    2. Re:Those Numbers Are Suspect by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They probably did an email survey with subject "Have you been scammed?". 28% that answer useless unsolicited mail probably have been scammed.

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    3. Re:Those Numbers Are Suspect by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny

      They probably did an email survey with subject "Have you been scammed?". 28% that answer useless unsolicited mail probably have been scammed.

      They were probably disappointed that the second line didn't read "The Nigerian government have a compensation scheme. Our records show that you are entitled to $20,000 thousand US dollars. Email me at ministeroffinance152342@hotmail.com for details of how to make a claim."

    4. Re:Those Numbers Are Suspect by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, I got one of those email surveys. I only had to pay $10 to find out whether I had been scammed in the last 12 months. Unfortunately, they replied back that I had, though they didn't give any details about when. I'm still trying to figure it out.

    5. Re:Those Numbers Are Suspect by Chrisq · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, I got one of those email surveys. I only had to pay $10 to find out whether I had been scammed in the last 12 months. Unfortunately, they replied back that I had, though they didn't give any details about when. I'm still trying to figure it out.

      But if they told you that you had and they were scamming you then it was not a scam ...... but that would mean that they told you the wrong answer, in which case it was a scam .... so the answer was right ..... my brain hurts (stack overflow).

  2. Re:I wonder... by davmoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Instead of waiting for the general public to catch on, which simply is not going to happen, a better question would be how long is it going to be before ISPs and providers update email protocols so that fake emails are simply not possible (or at least make it a lot harder than it is now)?

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  3. Re:I wonder... by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it's sensible to make a separation between phishing and other spam. If you click on an email advertising V14GR4, I'm quite happy to stamp 'Moron' across your forehead and be done with it. I wouldn't be nearly so hard on someone who gets a message which is identical to previous correspondence from their bank, but contains a link to l|oydstsb.com rather than lloydstsb.com, for example.

    Of course, even the best phishing email is useless against a well educated user, and I think the 25% figure sounds very high, but I can somewhat sympathise with those who fall for a well-crafted phishing scam in a way that I can't for those who end up on the wrong end of a semi-literate 419 email.

    The fact that sites like PayPal sometimes do send out real messages with all the hallmarks of a scam also serves to confuse issues. I seem to recall that this site is, in fact, legit.

  4. Re:I wonder... by AnonymousClown · · Score: 3, Informative
    People who I've witnessed who got suckered:

    Elderly people. They have this attitude that because the offer showed up on their machine, it must be legit. Older folks are a bit more trusting - generally speaking. Of course, that's a generalization. My Dad is one hell of a cynic and when he die and if there's a Heaven, St. Peter is going to get a lot of shit. "How do I know this is really Heaven? Put it in writing!"

    Uneducated people. These are also the people who buy shit from infomercials that will "cleanse their colon" and attend hotel ball room "lectures" on how to make hundreds of thousands of dollars trading stocks - all you have to do is pay $1200 for their "special" trading program. Of course, there are some really street smart uneducated people who get one over on MBAs - so I'm speaking about my experiences, only.

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  5. Re:Sent? or Received? by clickclickdrone · · Score: 5, Informative
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  6. Re:Precisely! by Chrisq · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is precisely why I've gone back to smoke signals!

    I just traded a deer carcase for the promise of a new bow and a lifetime supply of arrows you insensitive clod.

  7. Re:I wonder... by internewt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fact that sites like PayPal sometimes do send out real messages with all the hallmarks of a scam also serves to confuse issues. I seem to recall that this [paypal-marketing.co.uk] site is, in fact, legit.

    The holy grail of business is to turn costs into profits. Whilst spam, phishing, owned accounts, etc. look like costs to Paypal, they will very much be looking to change those to profits if possible.

    I don't use paypal, as it has always reeked as far as I am concerned, but as I understand it they will freeze accounts at the drop of a hat, for various reasons. If they have just 1% of accounts frozen at any one time, that will be a decent chunk of cash, and they can earn interest on it, and all the other shit capitalists can do when they have capital.

    So is it in PP's interests to freeze accounts? If so, they need excuses, and security is always a good-un. They might not purposefully confuse users, they just give the ones willing to take the wrong end of the stick, the wrong end of the stick. PP sending out emails that look like scam emails is just them offering "the wrong end of the stick".

    To geeks, it should be pretty straight forward - always, always, always, use the paypal.com domain for anything PP related. Never have other domain names. The drive for profit comes along though, and PP want to totally fill search results for escrow (or whatever) to drown out the competition. Or more importantly, those dirty commies looking to be critical of paypal, or their industry.

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  8. Re:I wonder... by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    how are people dumb enough (or just ignorant enough) to click on spam in 20-freakin-10?

    Not spam, phishing.

    I used to receive barely literate mail shots, with my bank's domain in the "From:" field. Tracking back the IP revealed that the sender was a 3rd party with a domain registered to a caravan (trailer) park.

    When I reported this to my bank as either a phishing attempt, or breathtakingly bad practice on their part, I got a snotty reply saying that this was a genuine mailshot via a 3rd party, and that this (by which they implicitly meant "faking headers") was standard practice. They genuinely could not understand why I had a problem with them sending out exactly the sort of faked email that they were regularly warning me about.

    Needless to say, I changed banks shorty afterwards, but the lesson is that the line between legit and fraudulent is thin and wiggly.

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