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German Publishers Want Monopoly On Sentences

Glyn Moody writes "You think copyright can't get any more draconian? Think again. In Germany, newspaper publishers are lobbying for 'a new exclusive right conferring the power to monopolize speech e.g. by assigning a right to re-use a particular wording in the headline of a news article anywhere else without the permission of the rights holder. According to the drafts circulating on the Internet, permission shall be obtainable exclusively by closing an agreement with a new collecting society which will be founded after the drafts have matured into law. Depending on the particulars, new levies might come up for each and every user of a PC, at least if the computer is used in a company for commercial purposes.' Think that will never work because someone will always break the news cartel? Don't worry, they've got that covered too. They want to 'amend cartel law in order to enable a global "pooling" of all exclusive rights of all newspaper publishers in Germany in order to block any attempt to defect from the paywall cartel by a single competitor.' And rest assured, if anything like this passes in Germany, publishers everywhere will be using the copyright ratchet to obtain 'parity.'"

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  1. So what by binarylarry · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Dying creatures thrash about as they go to meet their doom.

    News at 11 (please don't sue me gemany)

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    1. Re:So what by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Dying creatures thrash about as they go to meet their doom.

      "There has grown up in the minds of certain groups in this country the notion that because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with the duty of guaranteeing such profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary to the public interest. This strange doctrine is not supported by statute nor common law. Neither individuals nor corporations have any right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or turned back."
      -Life-Line by Robert A. Heinlein (1939)

      /Anonymously because I don't need the karma.

    2. Re:So what by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 3, Funny

      /Anonymously because I don't need the karma.

      You arrogant presumptuous cunt.

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    3. Re:So what by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 5, Funny

      sigh, sorry my stupid little brother saw i was still logged in and decided to insult people using my account

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    4. Re:So what by Hurricane78 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So that is how you in not only a +5 Informative, but also a +5 Funny? By insulting people and then taking it back?

      Wait, I can do that too:

      YOU ALL SUCK DICK

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  2. Wow by CasualFriday · · Score: 3, Funny

    "German Publishers Want Monopoly On Sentences" I'm posting this now before /. can sue me for it.

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  3. Heck, why not words by markov_chain · · Score: 4, Funny

    Knowing how German works there is clearly lots of room for creativity in word construction (or is that Wortbildungkreativität?) :D

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  4. A rainbow table of "Headlines"? by walmass · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder what the definition of "newspaper" will be for the purpose of this law--will it be dead-tree only? Otherwise someone should generate all possible combination of words resulting in (perhaps nonsense) sentences of lets say 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 words, and then of course protect them with this law.

    Once the list is generated, the now idle servers can be stuffed up the ass of the greedy bastards who want this law.

    1. Re:A rainbow table of "Headlines"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      They're specifically looking to monopolize the wordings in online "newspapers", while at the same time trying hard not to extend the scope to anything but their own publications. It's aimed at Google et al. I for one hope that Google will not license the snippets and headlines but instead remove all German newspaper URLs from the index.

  5. Re:Second Renaissance by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Funny

    Which will come first, this "Second Renaissance" or the year of Linux on the desktop?

    Halley's Comet

  6. Cease and desist letter, Parker Brothers by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is to inform you that the headline

    "German Publishers Want Monopoly On Sentences"

    infringes on our trademark, Monopoly. Please refrain from using this word in your headlines, or contact us for licensing arrangements. Further use will result in legal action.

  7. We need to put a stop to this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I suggest a "period."

  8. Word Permutations by alphahydroxy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These publishers need to learn a little about combinometrics. The Associated Press said they wanted to be able to copyright phrases as short as five words. Consider a 500 words story which would have 495 five word phrases which could then match up to anything that was ever written -- or just try googling for the exact string. I just googled the string containing the 2nd-6th words of this comment, "said they wanted to be", and got 3.2 million hits. If AP had gotten their way with the copyrights bit, AP would have had to have determined who had the rights to this phrase and negotiate use with the owner. Then AP would have to search for the owner of the string containing the 3rd to 7th words, "they wanted to be able" which had 7.8 million hits. And so on. Further this would have to be repeated for six, seven, ... word strings. Someone must have pointed out to AP how they would be not just hoisted, by destroyed by their own petard. This inane copyright that the German publishers are proposing would end up preventing them from writing headlines.

  9. Re:Flip side by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "What will you do when more people are breaking your law than obeying it?"

    The same thing we do with drug prohibition: expand the police force and increase the power that the police have, and then go ahead and incarcerate millions of people.

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  10. Re:From the "copyright ratchet" article: by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article is right about about the "copyright ratchet", but it's extremely short-sighted and, frankly, wrong when it says that it is the US pushing its laws onto the rest of the world. It has recently been driven by the US - things like the DMCA and Sonny Bono act and such, but most of the draconian copyright laws did not exist in the US until the 60's, where we were the ones who were "ratcheted up" to the rest of the world's standards, which had already been ratcheted up by the French (who still have the most restrictive copyright laws in the world, in my opinion). The French still give far more rights to author's/artists than the US does, so to say it is US driven is a little disingenuous, or at the very least completely ignorant of history. It also goes squarely against the articles main point: that copyright harmonization is any different than any other harmonization. There are swings back and forth.

    The real difference between copyright harmonization and other types of harmonization is copyright law affects everyone every single day, where most laws only affect a few people at any given time. Yet only a very small number of people are involved in the decision making process. Our supposed representatives are too easily swayed by lobbyists, they aren't considering the people any more.

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